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To think this is unfair (child care related)

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babyiwantabump · 09/11/2014 11:18

Background : I have a 10 month old DS am currently on maternity leave but going back to work soon . DP works full time . In laws were going to be providing a small amount of child are for us as they are both retired my parents both still work full time .

Now basically SIL has recently had a baby . The in laws have now said that they cannot provide the small amount if child care as they now have to look after SIL.

SIL is married , lives with her partner and is 10 years older than me. She is a stay at home mum. She goes to her parents with the baby every day and her mum occasionally goes to SIL's to stay overnight.

AIBU to feel pissed off that because SIL is being precious I may have to reduce my work hours and loose ££ a week as we effectively now have no child care and we were promised it first!

Dons hard hat but crosses arms and sulks!

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Nomama · 09/11/2014 13:46

Worst case scenario, read back what you posted in page 3...

... your DP brings what to the party?

I'm not saying every relationship is a financial balance sheet, over the years we have had times of incredibly one sided financial input, but he had better be doing something that enhances your life, or you will really start to resent him.

Keep the hard hat on and have a good long chat about all of the possibilities...

Good luck.

LIZS · 09/11/2014 13:46

Have you actually asked DP to share childcare costs ? It may be that because you have always done so with dd ( his dsd) he hasn't realised what is involved .

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 09/11/2014 13:52

I'm sorry that your partner isn't up to providing for his child; it's his responsibility - and yours - not your partner's parents. I wonder who is giving you all this information about your SIL's needs?

You sound as if you have nice grandparents yourself, they put in a whack of childcare for you every day. I bet your daughter really enjoys spending time with them.

Might a solution be for your partner to stay at home with the baby and you go back to work full time? That would be his contribution to his family. I've never heard such rubbish as outsourcing contributions as he's tried to arrange with this parents, he's a manchild.

Marcelinewhyareyousomean · 09/11/2014 14:16

This is very unfair. Your dp's parents should offer the same amount of support to the offspring of each if their children.

Mine had the DC of all siblings, look after my dsis's foster kids and have never helped with ds. They also paid the deposit for my eldest sibling but not for the rest of us. The siblings with the most support didn't pitch in to during my mum's cancer treatment. I'm with whycant now; my siblings that reap the benefits can support in old age.

Your dh should go part time or reduce his hours.

babyiwantabump · 09/11/2014 14:40

I think I need to have a proper sit down chat with DP. I really think he has no idea what's involved - in anything really. His dad has always sorted his finances for him even when he lived on his own.

I don't qualify for child tax or working tax credit but I can get vouchers through work which I will be doing .

I know DP is a financial waste of space but there is a lot more to him than his lack of money or lack of knowledge about money! Honest!

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Castlemilk · 09/11/2014 14:57

Sounds like your SIL isn't the only chld of your inlaws who is a spoilt little princess (or prince).

It's quite simple really.

He lives off you. This is only really possible as you have the earning power to carry him. If his planned 'contribution' (ha - ie getting mummy to do it for him) towards childcare isn't forthcoming, he needs to come up with an alternative, because you cannot afford to drop your hours and still maintain the household you do - ie him as a rather expensive pet.

Bottom line, before you drop to part time, HE should, and take on the childcare. He doesn't want to? Tough. He isn't the main earner, he isn't paying the mortgage, he doesn't get to choose here, and it's the obvious, most cost-efficient scenario, as you earn more than him.

Well, he does get to choose - but basically, if he refuses to step up and leaves you with the entire childcare problem then your most sensible, indeed your possibly only affordable solution is to kick him out.

  • you would be eligible for benefits help, including council tax reduction;
  • you would not have the expense of keeping him - he could take on that expense instead of childcare, and foot his CSA bill to boot;
  • you would not live with the utter farce of calling this man a 'partner' when he's actually a total leech who can't even begin to provide for his child or shoulder any of the burden.

Hopefully this won't be necessary, because as you say there's more to him than his parasitical tendencies! - if that's true, you should be able to sit him down, explain the finances and he will offer either to go part time, or to take on more work in order to help finance the extra childcare which will enable you to keep your full time job.

By the way - DO NOT GO PART TIME. Financially, this could be a disaster long term.

Castlemilk · 09/11/2014 14:59

Oh, and by the way - PIL's choice, they owe you nothing... But that works both ways, remember.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 09/11/2014 15:11

What Castlemilk said; this is not about your PILs at all, they're supporting their daughter and they're allowed to do that. Your partner should be supporting his own child and maybe that's why they think that they won't be able to step in now that their daughter has a real need for them.

I'd be really annoyed if I were them at his lack of responsibility. It's up to you whether you get annoyed about it but if you're going to be annoyed at anybody, direct your ire at him.

HazleNutt · 09/11/2014 16:13

THis was DP's contribution? Well then obviously it's his job to sort out the alternative. If anybody needs to stay home to take care of DC, it should be him - it makes no sense whatsoever for you to reduce hours, if you earn twice his salary.

26Point2Miles · 09/11/2014 16:19

Does he contribute to anything? At all?

babyiwantabump · 09/11/2014 16:37

He pays me a set amount each week which goes towards bills etc in proportion to his earnings .

This amount hasn't changed since DS . It's like getting blood out of a stone for anything else . As I have the money I don't bother to ask anymore . It's easier for me to just but whatever is needed than wait for him to put his hand in his pocket towards whatever it is.

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babyiwantabump · 09/11/2014 16:38

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mumwithanipad · 09/11/2014 17:12

I had similar happen, in my case though it was SIL who suggested MIL look after my baby as her youngest would be in school so her Mum would be free, Mil was very very happy with this, it would have been one day a week and as we live quite a bit away it would have given dd chance to see DHs side of the family, when SIL announced she was pregnant two months after I did I asked Mil if the arrangement was still ok and was told yes, I asked several times if the arrangement was still ok several times up until my return to work and was told yes.

Night before due to return to work I got a phone call saying Mil can't have dd after all as she is having Sils ds, (SIL. Was still on maternity leave) but for me not to worry as she found someone else to have my dd. Didn't feel comfortable leaving dd with a stranger (mil knew the person very well but I didn't have a clue who it was) so I had to miss my first day back at work, which went down like a lead balloon, dh works away so couldn't help. I wouldn't have been bothered in the slightest if she'd told me on one of the million times id checked if it was a problem, but to leave it til the night before pissed me off but because they are mostly lovely I let it go and just never asked for help with childcare again. (I found out afterwards that SIL needed her to have her dc because she was going for hair appointment so its not like it was some emergency that cropped up, they could have told me when SIL made the hair appointment the week before)

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 09/11/2014 17:21

My Dsis uses a childminder and a nursery to cover her childcare (same as you the nursery didn't have the space for ft just yet) and my DN really enjoys both Smile

I can count on one hand (and that would include if I'd had an awful incident with a knife game) the amount of times MIL has looked after DS for us (and they were only for about an hour each time and were emergencies ie in hospital with my other DS)

It's crap I understand what it's like to be left in the lurch when promises were made but we manage because DH and I are a team (and we now don't bother to ask as we know the only thing we can really rely on are ourselves) your DP needs to contribute either financially, time and preferably both!

Good luck Thanks

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 09/11/2014 17:28

mumwithanipad I'd have been pissed off at the very least with that! Angry

Castlemilk · 09/11/2014 17:49

This amount hasn't changed since DS . It's like getting blood out of a stone for anything else . As I have the money I don't bother to ask anymore . It's easier for me to just but whatever is needed than wait for him to put his hand in his pocket towards whatever it is.

If that's the case, then:

I know DP is a financial waste of space but there is a lot more to him than his lack of money or lack of knowledge about money! Honest!

is a load of crap, because that isn't anything to do with lack of knowledge about money, it's about disrespect, cocklodging and taking the piss. Not a nice set of qualities, especially not in a father.

I think you're being taken for a bit of a ride.

TwinkleDust · 10/11/2014 11:20

Actions speak louder than words - he evidently isn't being a decent husband or father - he is a free-loader.

This latest spanner in the works highlights the urgent need to sit down and work out a fair, proportional, distribution of family expenditure. His reaction to this necessity will illustrate his worth. Do you think he will step up?

babyiwantabump · 10/11/2014 13:49

To be fair to him though I think it is simply that he doesn't have the money - he already gives me over 50% of it weekly and contributes towards the food shopping etc . The rest goes on his own bills like mobile phone car insurance CSA payments etc .

I don't think he really has anymore to give ! And I accept that as I am the main earner .

Oh I don't know . I'm ringing a few places and people today to see if I can get the extra hours covered .

My grandparents have offered to do it but I think it's really unfair on them as they really are too old now . That will really be a last resort !

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HazleNutt · 10/11/2014 13:55

he said this offer for child care was his contribution, didn't he? Why are you ringing and searching for cover - let him.

ApocalypseThen · 10/11/2014 15:10

It sounds like your in laws are looking after their daughter as much as her child, so I would say you probably should let go of that resentment - it may not be fair but they're putting their child first and that's just the way it's going to be.

You need to do the same and give your partner the kick up the parent he deserves. What he's doing is ridiculous.

OnGoldenPond · 10/11/2014 16:49

Don't go part time to cover this - just don't.

Your DP needs to cover this one way or another. That means he should be the one ringing round local childminders etc or approaching his employer about reducing his hours.

MamaMed · 10/11/2014 17:02

I don't think it's unfair at all

Your SiL's LO might have silent reflux or allergies etc and may be struggling alot. I had a baby who had both and it was horrendous - my baby was up literally every hour at night.

They may have also realised how demanding it really is to look after a LO.

You need to sort out your own child's childcare - it's your child after all.

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