IWBU but by how much?-waiting in a disabled space?

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Mitigating circumstances:
Waiting for a family member who has recently had serious surgery and can't walk far, or stand for long and isn't supposed to be out in the cold/wet to come out of the doctors
I knew she was on her way out so would only be there a few minutes at most
The only other available spaces were on the other side of the car park
There is no designated waiting or pick up area, and narrow lanes/one way round the car park meant nowhere to pull over and wait without blocking any other drivers
There was more than one disabled space so I wasn't depriving anyone of the ability to park
I waited in the car and would have seen if the other spaces became in use and would have moved to allow a bb holder to park in mine if need be

I pulled into the BB space as it seemed the most sensible thing to do at the time, but in the maybe 2 or 3 minutes I was there (same song was still playing on the radio) 3 people came past and gave me dirty looks. So how unreasonable was I to have used the BB space to pick up my family member?

I have waited in a disabled spot a few times, and for no good reason tbh - other than it's closest to the store if dh nips in for instance.

I'd only do it if there is more than one space free. For anyone that comes along needing one there is still a space left so I really don't see any harm in it. I wouldn't particularly care about any dirty looks either.

Personally I don't see a problem in waiting in a disabled space (note: waiting, not parking) if there are plenty of others available. You're not preventing any genuine user from using them.

So, we're just playing semantics really. Lexical versus Logical.

Righto. Have RTFT top to bottom and first off, thank you to all who contributed thought provoking and enlightening insight into the debate.

Tinkly your anecdote was a tonic and your DS sounds like a treasure.

WRT the bunfighty bit - we've tried to keep deletions to a minimum despite the bad karma early this morning. Walking and Beyond please, please fight your corners if you will - but keep our guidelines in mind.

We never want to delete so much of a thread as to render it meaningless. There's a lot on here that might serve to make folk think before they use a BB space when they don't have the badge.

If you think we've made a wrong call, feel free to report any posts you want us to have a second look at. But above all, peace & love people

I'll be honest, i do take issue with you deleting me quoting back memphis saying i was trying to make her out to be a cunt, because she said it first, but hey ho.

An official stance against disabilism would be nice too, seeing as you did delete the post that i reported for being disabilist.

In fact, thinking about it, that is an incredibly goady comment of hers. For you not to delete mine i'd either have to not say anything at all about her comment or reassure her that i didnt think she was coming across as a cunt.

Whereas i just said that her posts didnt look any different to my paraphrasing.

Yet my response is the one deleted.

I know many people who have been temporarily incapacitated for various reasons and almost every single one has said to be that it's helped them empathise with me and understand my daily struggles. I've never had someone say it's the same as living with a disability. I don't think most people on this thread are saying that either. I am simply saying that if I can do something to make another person's life easier without inconveniencing another person (in this example, a BB holder) why not do it?!

I am simply saying that if I can do something to make another person's life easier without inconveniencing another person (in this example, a BB holder) why not do it?!

How do you mean Crash?

And Beyond - we've both had our telling off. So for goodness sake let it lie.

Can't speak for Crash but I would see that as NOT parking/stopping in a BB space when you do not have a BB as one example of that. Because it may very well inconvenience.

Memphis, I have not been told off anywhere.

I am disappointed with HQs downplaying of your disabilism though and no, I will not let that lie.

If you're determined for this to continue as a bunfight, you'll only make yourself look stupid. Go and start a petition against me and my 'disabilism' or something, i'll stay here and count how many fucks I give.

Walking, I'm ever so sorry, and no that's not me being p/a, I am sorry, but in actual fact you're only making yourself look a bit of a nana, not anyone else. You started off saying you wait in disabled spaces and don't give a flying fuck, you've played semantics (waiting is not necessarily parking, according to you) and you've held your position all the way through the thread. May I suggest you take a week away and then quietly read through the thread. You may see it differently then.

I've read through already Dawndonna, and already considered it following the accusations of disabilism. I've changed my pov on a few things on aibu in the past when I've read a considered, thought-provoking opinion of something that has made me reconsider my views on whatever it is.

I'm happy to stand by everything I've posted and this thread hasn't changed my feeling on it. I cannot see anything wrong with what has been posted over and over again. I get that some people don't agree, and i'm a big girl so I can deal with that.

But people re-quoting over and over things I've posted and telling me I actually am a cunt and selfish and disabilist etc...it's not true changing my pov.

As i said upthread, if you think there is a need for a short term 'pink' badge (it was someone else who suggested pink), then campaign for it and sort it, don't steal my fought for rights.

Also be prepared to pay for this, like those of us with genuine need have to. And to supply a photograph.

A blue badge costs £10 plus the cost of the photo - if you can't get in to a booth you have to go to Jessops or another photographer and pay £5-12.

So I have no problem with a temporary badge, but are people really going to start to shell out £20-30?

Walking I feel like you've missed the point of this thread. Most people are/were talking about waiting in a disabled space for a person with a temporary impairment. You, however, said you wait in BB spaces for an old reason. Not really the same thing!!

I never realised blue badges cost money.

No crash it's not.

There are lots of opinions on this thread related all around BB. I don't really see how it's possible to 'miss the point' of a thread like this as the conversation has naturally evolved.

Rivercam, mine cost £20 + £8 for photos! It's different in each area I think.

It's worth it's weight in gold though, couldn't do without it.

I'm almost positive I didn't pay anything for mine when I had it. I'm in Wales, the land of free prescriptions - maybe it's the same with BB's here.