to be sick of people telling me how early they wake up when i say dd is an early riser?

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Dd2 (12mths) often wakes at 5. It kills me and I hate it. Am ill all the time, struggling at work, have no social life as go straight to bed and suffer for weeks if I don't. She's an overtired mess so not even happy and I've tried everything to get her to go longer.

Mention why I'm tired to people without young kids (retirees are the worst) and they bang on about how theyre always awake at 5. Even if this is true (fairly sure it's not) theyre not looking after a sobbing baby at this point or spending all day with a baby and a toddler. Sooo aibu to find this really unsympathetic?

This sounds exhausting! I do however find that retirees DO not sleep as much, but as you say its a world away from actually having to get up with a baby. I can see why this annoys you, but you need to try and smile sweetly and ignore, its not a competition (I mean that nicely). Things we tried when we had early waking - giving porridge before bed, getting her up and giving brekkie then straight back to bed, bringing her into our bed with us, setting the heating to come on in the early hours so she wasn't cold, leaving a cup of water in her bed for when she was thirsty. I cannot think of anymore :-/ Thankfully it was a short phase for us, hopefully is for you too. (PS - sorry I didn't read all the thread so have probs repeated everyone else).

I wake every morning at 5.15 , every sodding morning and have done for the last year , for no bloody good reason . Youngest is now 4 and has been a poor sleeper since birth , but even he no longer wakes before me , which is really galling . I really do feel for you OP , not getting enough sleep is shit .