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To be a bit dismayed if 4 million women visit this site,why are there so few posts on the feminism threads?

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Scarletohello · 30/10/2014 22:05

Ok so I know there are lots of lurkers but if there are really millions of women who go on MN, why are so many threads on the feminism section consisting of so few women? It doesn't make sense to me as so many issues that
women post about on many different topics are actually feminist issues when it comes down to it...

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ElephantsNeverForgive · 30/10/2014 23:02

I've been dabbling and learning a lot the last couple of days, but it's very hard work because their are so many names, terms and abbreviations and I have to keep stopping and googling.

And I keep wanting to scream cis and trans are the names of chemical isotopes!

magicpixie · 30/10/2014 23:02

last time I posted in that section I more or less got told to piss off so stick to chat mainly or s and b

avoid aibu as its not very nice on the whole

Camolips · 30/10/2014 23:03

I agree with stylecraft. I rarely contribute but enjoy the debates. We still have a long way to go yet, so a separate board is relevant I think.

zzzzz · 30/10/2014 23:04

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Scarletohello · 30/10/2014 23:04

FFS I don't really get the amount of aggression this thread has provoked. I was just pondering about the vast numbers of women that are on MN and how many of the problems facing women are actually feminist issues, why the feminism board seemed so sparse in comparison. A lot of people seem to have taken offense when none was ever intended. And people find FWR intimidating! Smile

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JubJubBirds · 30/10/2014 23:06

Scarlet, you've been told in both boards that your OP comes across as patronising. Do you think it might be that that has caused the offence?

dahKill · 30/10/2014 23:07

I lurk, post occasionally, and enjoy learning. I use a lot of the FWR threads as a jumping off point for further reading or research.

I think FWR can come across as cliquey but that's true of many spaces on the internet.

grocklebox · 30/10/2014 23:08

Stop calling women aggressive because they forcefully give their opinion. Nothing very feminist about that, is there? Or is it only ok when you're giving it rather than getting it?

We don't need to go to your penned off area to talk about feminism and womens rights, they permeate lots of topics just like they do in life.
We don't need you to educate us, no matter how widely read you believe yourselves to be.
We don't need to be talked down to and patronised.

Has your question been answered yet?

zzzzz · 30/10/2014 23:08

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PacificWerewolf · 30/10/2014 23:10

Scarleto, much as I agree with your surprise that such a small proportion of MN uses frequent the FWR boards, you do have to accept that your OP here and on there comes across quite condescending.

But - I do think we need a separate FWR board to allow for the more in-depth discussions.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 30/10/2014 23:11

Urgh! I hate threads about threads all feeding off each other. There's a reason they are banned here - it's because it feels like people are standing in another part of the playground bitching about you. And I bloody post on FWR.

Reporting.

LittleBearPad · 30/10/2014 23:11

It is interesting and some of the topics have made me think but it is pretty argumentative at times. Heaven forbid you've made different choices - you've led to the oppression of other women.

edwinbear · 30/10/2014 23:14

OP I work on bank trading floor with 800 male traders. I have spent 12 hours a day flying the feminist flag for the last 15 years. But I don't want to then come home and spend what little free time I have, complaining and analysing every sexist thing that happened over the course of the day. I want to switch off and focus on something else.

SplatTheScaryCat · 30/10/2014 23:15

the feminism chat board is supposed to be the fem-lite board.. thats what it was created for a couple of years ago... but i guess its original purpose, after all the upheaval/uproar we went through to get the section redesigned got wasted :(

sad when it was so serious and we hoped so much it would work.. but then we did also say that even if the chat bit was fem-lite, it would still get stomped all over by the radfem opinion, and in my experience lately.. thats exactly whats happened.

WorraLiberty · 30/10/2014 23:15

OMG so you started this thread

Read and ignored the replies

Started your own thread about this thread in FWR?

If your patronising attitude is even slightly representative of the FWR topic, I'm surprised it isn't even more empty.

Congratulations OP

You've done for the FWR topic what Nestle did for breast feeding Mothers

Absolutely fuck all...

SplatTheScaryCat · 30/10/2014 23:17

Scarlett.

the FWR board has a lot of history, a lot of the longer term posters here who used to post on it, and still post on it, or avoid posting on it feel very emotive about it.

its not as simple as you think, that boards been through hell to try and change the atmosphere, but has failed at every hurdle.

Those of us who've been here a long time, (8 years myself) who no longer use it, have some very valid and emotional reasons why we dont.

DraaaamaghAlpacaaaagh · 30/10/2014 23:19

That TAAT is the perfect example of why people don't want to post in FWR.

RockinHippy · 30/10/2014 23:20

Because too much of what's on there is self opinionated, pity me, oh those nasty, nasty men & way too often bordering on raving loony twaddle & of no interest to me as its way too OTT & I don't need it

Annunziata · 30/10/2014 23:21

I think they take things far too seriously and they scare me.

HolgerDanske · 30/10/2014 23:22

Yawn. Here we go.

It's nothing to do with intimidation or intellectualism or aggression or whatever else, for me.

It's purely that I don't believe endlessly poring over what will only ever be a very academic and abstract set of questions and related answers is the best use of my time. I have an actual life to lead and in it I make informed and progressive choices where possible, and also choose not to sweat the small stuff too often. My part in feminism as a force for change is relevant only in dealings with the people I come into contact with in my day to day life and relationships because that is the sphere in which I can make actual change. Talk is cheap. And I've done enough of it to last a lifetime.

ElephantsNeverForgive · 30/10/2014 23:27

Oh joy! More jumping down an OPs throat for daring to start a thread and have a debate!

Surely that's what MN is about!

zzzzz · 30/10/2014 23:30

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HolgerDanske · 30/10/2014 23:31

I think we're having rather a healthy 'debate', actually.

I love how people use that word as if it's some sort of holy grail.

Most debates are boring rehashes of the same old thing.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 30/10/2014 23:32

It's the fact there's a parallel debate going on about this thread in FWR that's pissing me off Elephants

WorraLiberty · 30/10/2014 23:33

Yes, can you point out where the OP has actually debated anything here?

She was too busy ignoring our replies to her opening post and starting a patronising TAAT, (her own bloody thread) in FWR.

I think you might have confused the word 'debate' with 'narcissism'?

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