To share this video...swearing princesses.

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love it and after contributing to a thread today where some posters felt that girls need to learn to deal with being told to "suck my cock" I feel it's timely.

I just couldn't watch it. I got about 40 seconds in and had to turn it off.

I swear like a trooper and I'm as radfem as youcan get but I just think that video is awful! I get the message they're trying to get across, but it made me so uncomfortable to hear that kind of language coming from CHILDREN of that age (regardless of their gender). I didn't get as far as the messages about rape but that makes me even more uncomfortable. I don't think children that age should even know that word let alone know what it means.

It's just exploitative rather than being pro-feminism and pro-women.

I really hate it tbh, it does not give a great message as clearly the girls were told what to say. Do we need to resort to foul language to get our point across? the messages were good but no need for the way it was done IMO I think a clean version would have had more impact, and using older girls as tbh I am uncomfortable with such young girls being used to give messages to rapists. Little girls should be little girls enjoying childhood for as long as possible so No there must be a better way for us to get our point across.
actually, thinking about it why can we not have boys doing this, surely a better message to get out there boys telling other boys not to be rapists? again though, older ones that understand the issues. would be much more powerful. Its treating little children as puppets to sell be that t shirts or good messages or whatever, borders on exploitation IMO at the young age they used. much less of a problem to me had they been older.

What message Allhallows? That it's ok for 5yos to know about rape? And talk about it to further the profits of a commercial company?

And as predicted, the 'anti-fem' lot on twitter have grabbed it with both hands and used it as an example of Why Feminism Is Bad.

Where on twitter ?

Only in America.... The message is important but this is a terrible way to get it across. What were their parents thinking to let those young girls participate in the video?

Didn't even attempt to watch it, sounds awful

I knew that would happen everyone which is why I am so against the video

Message is good but.... would be even better with over 16s. I reckon it could be shown in secondary schools then.
As it is they'd be sidetracked by the 'little girls swearing' and not listen to the messages.

I think the swearing princess one would be good for a discussion with 13-14 year olds. It is too obvious and simple minded for thoughtful adults, but I think it could be a good starting point for a year 8 PSHCE class discussion

Oooooh, that would definitely end up on AIBU!

Can people really not tell it's voiced over? The kids are NOT swearing, or talking about rape, they will be given a script that LOOKS similar to those words but you can clearly tell it's not their voice.

Oh well, there you have me, OldCatLady. As an OldRabbitLady I'm too trusting by half.

I agree it might be dubbed, I only played it quietly on my phone. The doing track was very slick, but some young DCs are.

DD2 has never done drama, except the odd school/brownie play, but at 10 she could throw in that sort of attitude.

Jesus, that's awful. I don't think it's voiced over at all. And the girl at the end is definitely giving the finger.

Who agrees for their kid to be in a video like that?

I think it's funny and clever. It is dubbed and beautifully edited. I don't remember the Tshirt, but I remember the message.

I didn't like the princess one and it's pointless. It's preaching to the converted. And it really is just about selling t shirts..

The Always one (I take it sponsored by the sanitary towels maker?) was far more effective and subtle and there's nothing objectionable about it being sponsored by that company.

I personally wouldn't care if the girls were really swearing, but they are not...
The message is very clear. Why can't girls and women be angry, swear, and aggressive to get a message across? Not having a penis shouldn't mean we have to be calm about everything we are passionate about!

Well, no one is saying women and girls can't be any of those things... Are they? But I don't think many people like men swearing and being aggressive to get their point across either. Swearing and aggression generally is a bad way to get your point across.

Honestly, I just can't see what this amazing 'message' is. I can only see little girls being cynically exploited by a commercial company that has form for screwing over charities. But if you want to take something deep and meaningful from that, be my guest

Agree, it's just lowering these girls to a perceived male way of getting a message across, shouting, swearing etc is not a good way for anyone to communicate effectively.

Why can't girls and women be angry, swear, and aggressive to get a message across?

They can if they want to. However, young children shouldn't, regardless of gender. It doesn't matter if they are really saying it in the video or not, it is made to look that way.

There are better ways of getting the message across.

I realise I'm in the minority here, but I think it's cute!

I am completely and utterly unfazed by swearing, though. To me, the whole point of the video is to present something that is likely to create a slight shock in more mild-mannered people so as to make the point that the way we treat women is far, far worse than getting a few kids to swear. If it didn't have that shock value, it would be trending and wouldn't be a thread on here.

The point where the five of them stand there and ask which one will be raped made me gulp.

All of them are being exploited anyway so the point is moot.

I just watched this properly and all the way through and the message I got was that you may as we'll let girls swear as it isn't as bad as all the other stuff so just let them swear and it's all even. No worries.

Sorry HowlCapone, I don't agree that children in general aren't allowed to express their anger either. Feeling out of control when angry is a fairly typical response, especially in children who might still be learning about emotions. Telling children not to be aggressive or loud when passionate or angry suppresses them, teaches them only certain emotions are acceptable to express, and others should be suffered alone. Better to encourage healthy expression of emotion, for example speaking out.
Obviously these girls probably aren't angry about this issue, yet, as they are actors hired to express the anger of the creators. Same as all adverts really.