To be totally baffled (Ched Evans related)

[soapboxqueen]

Just reading in the guardian that Ched Evans has applied to the Criminal Cases Review Commission to review his case. That's fine because it is part of our due process and legal system.

However, in the article it points out that his girlfriend's father is paying for appeal barristers, private detectives and even offering a reward for information in order to help his appeal. Why would you do that? Why would you put up so much money to protect a person who at best (from their perspective at least) cheated on your daughter in a rather deplorable fashion and at worst a rapist? Why would got want your daughter to be with such a person?

I really don't understand.

I'll see if I can get the link to work.

Can someone explain to me what his girlfriend has done? I have seen the website (which is appalling) but the people convicted of tweeting the victim's identity were just general Sheffield fans, no?

I just hope I raise my DSs well enough that they would never consider doing anything like this, I don't know how I'd feel if I was the mother in this position. I do know that I wouldn't be jumping on the victim blaming bandwagon though, seeing CE's mum and sister makes you realise how skewed the values of the whole family are.

I'm not surprised he expressed no remorse in that video, he looked like he was struggling to read the words with more than one syllable.

He is a C-list player at best so i can't see any big clubs clamouring to sign him, there are younger and better players to take his place. I'm sure his simpering girlfriend's millionaire daddy will be happy to give him a job sweeping up or something suited to his skills.

Are they engaged? Was it a case of "i'll stand by you but i want the big flashy WAG wedding in return"? It wouldn't surprise me, she has absolutely no self-respect nor conscience.

I hadn't watched the video-i'd only read the words but I've just seen a snippet on the news. My word, there was no emotion behind that at all was there? He could have been reading anything.

I'm astounded that Jean Hatchett has been threatened with rape and murder for starting the petition. Put your head above the parapet to speak up about male violence against women, get threatened with violence. By mostly men I presume.

I find it terrifying that there are so many men out there who see their penis as a weapon with which to silence women.

I've watched Ched's video now. And I listened to the Moral Maze.

I have had a realisation that had the Rapist Ched Evans been truly rehabilitated, had he admitted what he did was rape, had he apologised to his victim - whom he left in a hotel room when she was 'sick' (as testified by his mate CM) to awaken covered in urine and vomit, without her clothes, bag or any memory of the previous night - had he said he was sorry for how he had treated a fellow human being, how he now had a greater understanding of the nature of consent, how he would now speak out about how he acted like a sexual predator that night... all of that, I wouldn't object to him returning to football.

If he publicly criticised the fans that chanted "super Ched, he can do what he wants" and admitted that he did far more than cheat that night, I would accept him returning to Sheffield Utd.

Unfortunately to men like the Rapist Ched, his fans, his gf, his mum, brother and sister - rapists jump out of bushes and drag women away at knifepoint. He's so determined not to be a rapist - he's trying to put the cause back 20yrs - to blur the lines of consent - to not account for his predatory actions that night - and to put all the blame on the victim/feminists/police/the jury* Anyone but himself.

(*delete as necessary).

Well fucking said, Sabrinnnnna

i have heard other footballer 'got off' was because he was much more articulate in his defence but all the evidence really pointed to them both being guilty.

Having seen that video I can understand why CE would be considered inarticulate.

Pathetic. Both of them.

Just looking at the newspapers online, he is referred to as 'rapist' in all of them. I think the tabloids are going to hammer him

Whoever is advising him is making a terrible job of it.

I agree Sabrinnnnna. And he also should publicly condemn the way in which his family, friends and supporters treated and continue to treat the victim.

None of that will happen though.

He's a disgrace and so are his supporters.

Excellently put Sabrinnnnnnnna. I was about to write an angry rant along similar lines but could not have written it so well.

Yes Empire. Absolutely. The hounding and outing of the victim is unforgivable. I thin you're right - he can condemn the treatment of her without even admitting his guilt (although I think he should do that too).

I'm also heartened by the support for the victim in the tabloids - partic the Daily Mail. Even the Daily Mail comment section.

I do like the way the press are dealing with it. I've even been impresses with the daily mail. He's always referred to as 'rapist' which i think is great because it reminds everyone that that's what he is.

Grazia have done an article on this this week as well asking when will the victim blaming stop. Theyve also interviewed a rape survivor for the article.

I read a blog today where someone described being lost and alone in London when she was 19. Some bloke approached and asked her what was wrong and she explained she was drunk and lost. He took her to a taxi rank, put her in a cab, handed £20 to the driver and said "She lives in Kentish Town, take her home please".

Men like Clayton McDonald and Ched Evans would probably assume he was gay because otherwise he would have put his cock in her. After all, it's their behaviour that's normal, not his, right?

here's the post

AskBasil - welcome proof that not all men are rapists

Just watched the video - wow, his people really need to look up the meaning off the words 'personal and profound' in the dictionary.

I think the word that they were actually looking for were 'barelymanagingtostringasentencetogetherfromanautocue' and 'fullofshit'.

Totally agree with your Sabrinnnnnnnnna and Empire.

Men like Clayton McDonald and Ched Evans would probably assume he was gay because otherwise he would have put his cock in her. After all, it's their behaviour that's normal, not his, right?

I read something like this earlier this week AskBasil. A man had said "any man would take it if it was offered on a plate like that" I thought that was so disgusting and depressing but I do think that is the pervading veiw of his supporters.

Unfortunately Cromer i have heard some women say that as well Its despairing.

I think a lot of men would take sex "offered on a plate" - but in this case it wasn't on a plate. He had to jump through hoops here.

To engage in rape of the woman, who he had never even met before (oh, except stepping over her when she fell in a kebabashop ), involved diverting a taxi, lying to get the hotel room key, going into the room while his mate was with a woman, not bothering to actually ask the woman for consent (Rapist Ched Evans testified that CM had "offered") and then sneaking out through the fire escape. She had no memory of it.

That's why a jury of his peers found him guilty.