to be really angry at Benefits House:Me and My 26 Kids

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Is anybody else watching this on 5*? It's mainly focused on the bloke with 26 kids by 10 mums who is demanding a bigger house paid for by the government, most of his kids are old enough to work but only one does. His main complaint is that the benefits cap means they can't buy a playstation! I kind of understand the single mum who needs a bigger house, but there's another family with 8 kids, neither of them working but both drinking and smoking! AIBU to be absolutely reeling that the government makes it so easy for some people! I'm self-employed because we don't qualify for 15 hours of childcare yet and my other half has been doing 60+ hours a week recently to support us!

It was a well thought out observation too. I certainly didn't read any Daily Mail frothing in it.

I think what will happen is a massive rise in homelessness. And if we remove HB, we then have to wonder what will happen to those who DO get pregnant and have nowhere to go.

I think the replies on this thread perhaps show a split between tax payers and benefit claimants.
Sums it up very nicely I think.

maninawomansworld, yep a split, those that are tax payers are tried of paying for other peoples life choices.

As said upthread, where do you want those who pay tax and receive benefits to stand?

No one should take out more than they put in. those working who receive benefits wouldn't need to if tax was lower.

So cut benefits, use the money to lower tax. those that work are then doing better and those that don't are not my problem any more.

I can't even begin to address your flawed logic Territt, let alone your unpleasant attitude.

Have you calculated your own tax contributions vs use of public services?

and the disabled,Territ?

Territt you are simply delightful

Sent you a pm Dawn

I think the replies on this thread perhaps show a split between tax payers and benefit claimants

I pay lots of taxes here in Mexico but I can never stop working because there is no universal pension, I see so much suffering everytime I walk out the door and if I get sick my family will go hungry. Any UK taxpayers who are complaining about the welfare safety net should bloody wake up. Without a welfare system, how many pay packets are they away from ending up on the street?

"I think the replies on this thread perhaps show a split between tax payers and benefit claimants.
Sums it up very nicely I think."

We are higher rate tax payers. Don't even get child benefit.

"No one should take out more than they put in. those working who receive benefits wouldn't need to if tax was lower.

So cut benefits, use the money to lower tax. those that work are then doing better and those that don't are not my problem any more."

Currently about 90% of the population take out more than they put in - benefits, health costs, education costs.

Especially pensioners - they cost a flipping fortune, what with their final salary pension schemes, heavy use of the NHS etc.

Really, it would be better if we could arrange a little... um... genocide or something? To thin out all the 'non-productive' and expensive elements of our population?

And then the productive people (like you I presume) could have all their money for themselves, to spend on important stuff like handbags and cashmere carpets.

I think Territt is probably only 16.

What the heck is productive anyway?
Designing advertising campaigns for junk food; working for a bank; invading foreign countries; selling hedge funds?

I work 60-70 hour weeks, its sicking to see how much of the money I earn gets taken to pay for other people.

It gets taken to pay for you, your family, your healthcare, your education, the education of your family, the police, the fire service, et al.

Oh, and I work 126 hours a week for 65 quid, saving the government approximately £3.500 per week.

I work full time AND care for a disabled child at home. I STILL need benefits as my income is low enough to warrant it.

Territ, you have little idea what you are talking about. I worked for 30+ years paying tax and claiming nothing. ..I suspect my taxes paid for your education and I despair that it was spent so badly.

How much of your personal taxes go towards 'paying for other people' Territt?

You must have an idea since you are so sickened by it.

sorryforher you're absolutely right - I should read posts properly before jumping in and I hope you'll accept my apologies, especially for the DF/Sun comment!

Mea Culpa