To be enraged on behalf of the mother?

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I mean, kids these days need to be taught that they are even less "invisible" than we thought we were due to social media, but really?

I think that this was actually a good lesson in internet safety.

We didn't have internet safety talks or anything like this when I was at school but we did have Facebook. In year 11 a girl at school had taken a disliking to me, I don't know why. She had taken an image from my Facebook page along with my phone number and made hundreds of posters offering free sex. Now that really was humiliating! Would I have preferred to have learnt this lesson via this teachers way? You're damn right I would. I would take my photo being in assembly over hundreds of posters any day of the week.

Hopefully now this girl (and the rest of the school for that matter) will a) think twice about what images she wishes to upload and b) think carefully about who can view/save/edit or send the photos she does upload.

aerminger's analogy about a work meeting is spot on. Add in the extra self consciousness of a teenaged girl and you end up with the kind of dreadful result that anxioushamster talks about. There are better ways of teaching internet security.

Nameexchange - I suspect that many other ways have been tried and failed (knowing from experience with a very slightly different age range). Jellybelly's point about the lesser of two evils (I'm paraphrasing) is a good one. What do you do when you advise, instruct, support etc and nothing changes?

Oh and I have quoted people's FB pages at them in a work meeting - admittedly I did it anonymously but the bottom line was the same. Using people's posts to demonstrate the risks of uncensored FB use.

Like I said, we have no idea what may be going on in this girls life. Maybe it is an OTT reaction but she may have things going on which means she took this more to heart than other people would have done.

I know when I was going through a lot and was very emotionally unstable there were things that had a bigger impact on me than what they would have done when I was otherwise fine. Things that I might find a bit upsetting or embarrassing but weren't a big deal suddenly affected me in a big way during this time and they seemed like a bigger deal. And I was an adult during this.

I think there might be more to this story.

anxioushamster that situation is exactly what I'm worried about along with the reaction of her peers towards her after this after all if responsible adults were willing to single her out then why shouldn't they?

It also smacks of slut shaming to me, why choose a bikini photo? I'm betting there was others to choose from but the teacher in question purposefully went out of his/her way to humiliate this pupil.

jellybelly so you feel that it was Ok to use this child with little regards to how this may effect her? I can't believe people are actually trying to justify this, its horrifyingly callous.

But anxious the teachers intentions wasn't to upset or humiliate. If she found this situation this upsetting, how upset do you think she would have been if somebody had done what they did to me and create posters of her and stick them up everywhere? That's what the teacher was trying to show.

I bet this girl went home and changed her privacy settings. So in that case the teacher has done what he aimed to achieve and made her and her peers think carefully about the photos and information they post online.

LittleBairn I'm actually quite surprised too. Vulnerabilities aside I still don't think this was the right way of going about it.

Someone has already mentioned this but would people still be okay with this if it was another student who had done this to humiliate her? Or would that be classed as bullying? I doubt many people would be okay with it if another student had done it so why is it okay for a teacher to do it? The outcome is the same.

But anxious the teachers intentions wasn't to upset or humiliate.

Somehow I doubt that.

Again you have no idea what is going on in this girls life that made her and her mother react the way they did.

jellybelly

"But anxious the teachers intentions wasn't to upset or humiliate. If she found this situation this upsetting, how upset do you think she would have been if somebody had done what they did to me and create posters of her and stick them up everywhere?"

^^^
just how she feels now!

Yes actually I do bairn in this situation the aim is to educate young people about internet usage. It was not a malicious act, it was done with the kids interests at heart.

If the teacher was just joking around in class and stuck their pictures on the board then I would agree as that would be done to humiliate not educate. But from what I gather, this was done as part of an assembly specifically about internet/privacy.

As I said, I bet that girl and all her friends have since changed their privacy settings.

But from what I gather, this was done as part of an assembly specifically about internet/privacy.

They could of done that without showing the pictutes.

Yes but it wouldn't have made such an impact. You can tell kids over & over & they don't listen - sometimes it takes actions to catch their eye.

The girl who did that to you sounds horrible jelly, what awful behaviour.

But that doesn't make anything less ok. And I certainly wouldn't expect it to be done by a teacher, its bad enough when its a fellow pupil.

It may have been done with the interests of the rest of the class at heart but it certainly wasn't done with her interests at heart.

wonkylegs my friends DD killed herself after something like this happened in her school.

Again you have no idea what problems this girl has or what is going on in her life. You have no idea if she has issues that might cause her to be more upset than other people.

Like I said before when I had a lot going on and was in a bad place emotionally there were things that affected me more and had a bigger impact than what they would have done if I wasn't in that bad place. And I was an adult.

The bit that so many of you are missing, which is a really salient point, and you are so quick to flobble your jowls about the fecklessness of youth that you are missing it, is this:

What the teacher did was not to demonstrate in a hard-hitting way that a certain humiliation was possible, as some of you think. What the teacher did was to perform the humiliation.

So - you jowl-flobblers - your argument is crap. You are like a person breaking someone's leg to show that legs are breakable, and then sneering "it had to be done, they are lucky it was done by me with love rather than by a stranger". which is illogical crap.

Obviously what makes this attitude actually nasty is the lack of empathy and compassion, rather than the lack of logic, but I find that people like you are with misplaced senses of superiority are more discombobulated by exposure of failures of cognition than compassion, so that is what I'm picking on

what she said ^

I agree with Vezzie.

There may well have been a good point to be made about Internet security but the callous way in which this girl was offered up to prove the point was disgusting.

Badly done by the teacher. Badly done

So true vezzie

Some of the posts here are positively gleeful about the humiliation of a child by a teacher (a teacher no less, a professional in a position of authority who we want our children to trust and respect!)

What kind of teacher relies on humiliation to deliver a lesson?

A shit one I'd say. Fortunately the head seems to recognise the lesson was a failure and has apologised.

I do not understand how a Facebook photo is a humiliation? I'm sure the teacher didn't either.

What the teacher did was not to demonstrate in a hard-hitting way that a certain humiliation was possible, as some of you think. What the teacher did was to perform the humiliation.

Yes i'm sure the real reason he did it was because he wanted to be in control and humiliate his students. you are right the possibility of him, a teacher, wanting to educate the students is out of the question.

I agree with Vezzie. jellybelly I am sure you are right and that humiliation was not the teacher's intention (and he/she probably feels really bad about it with hindsight) but it is in fact what he/she did.

The teacher could have made the point with a selection of silly photos from some pupils' pages. They did not need to single out a teenage girl from all the other head and shoulders shots by enlarging a picture of her in a bikini and displaying it in a room full of her peers.

That was needlessly cruel and the teacher should have known better. That girl will be ridiculed by the rest of the school. An unintended consequence I'm sure, but it will happen nonetheless

Fortunately the head seems to recognise the lesson was a failure and has apologised.

Good for the head. And good for her mother for kicking up a fuss. IMO there would be less of a problem with teen suicide and depression if more people were actually willing to listen to them rather than just dismissing their problems.