To be enraged on behalf of the mother?

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Fail [[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782126/Schoolgirl-15-humiliated-teacher-showed-picture-bikini-100-fellow-pupils-demonstrate-dangers-social-networks.html]]

I mean, kids these days need to be taught that they are even less "invisible" than we thought we were due to social media, but really?

The whole issue here is that putting something on Facebook with minimal security settings is exactly equivalent to blowing it up big and holding it up for all the world to see. Just because you aren't there when people see it, doesn't mean it's not happening.

Speaking to the girl privately would have been better for her, but had no impact whatsoever on the other 99 kids, many of whom are probably being just as daft online. On balance, I think shock tactics were probably quite appropriate to the situation.

If the photo was one that she had not consented to being online, I might feel differently. But she posted it. She might as well have put it on a big banner on the school gates, because everyone at that school could see it from the moment she posted it.

I think the girl was very daft to post the image in the first place. Anyone could access it - as they already have. The school shouldn't have used the image to make a point however.

Oh , that's lovely indigo

Do you really not remember being 15 years and doing something you now feel was silly or immature, ill-advised or even dangerous.

I actually feel it's a bit 'slut shaming' [not that I am saying this girl is a 'slut', I actually hate that word as it is in the main used to describe female sexually promiscuous behaviour and not male].

Oh, how awful that a 15 year old dares to wear a bikini top and a pair of shorts and then puts a picture of themselves on facebook... Really? Yes, the girl in question should have a lesson on security settings but otherwise it shouldn't really be an issue imo. It is normal dress within a certain context and should not be viewed as sexually provocative imo.

To my mind, this incident has been a huge betrayal of trust implicit in the teacher/student relationship. Irrelevant that the girl is in a bikini, why did they have to use any photo of hers which a] was identifiable and b] without her knowledge and permission?

There are much kinder ways to make the point that online material is easily accessible than singling out a 15 year old pupil in her school assembly.
Very bad judgement on behalf of the teacher, how do they know that said pupil is not at risk of self harm for example as a result of being humiliated in this way?

If I was the Mum I would take this issue as far as I could within the official channels also.

Yeah, great, let's give a kid a real pasting ...

The teacher - who SHOULD have known better - could have dealt with it effectively in private.

I can't believe some of you are basically blaming this girl.

I am blaming the mother who didn't check her daughter's security..........then kicked up a fuss about what has happened.

Maybe mothers should also be checking that photos of their daughters aren't going to be shown in school assemblies without their permission??

"ADish the girl posted it on facebook for the world to see."

Exactly!!!

She did not however post it on facebook for her teacher to download, enlarge and showcase at a special assembly, before a group of 100 of her peers.

At her age she is probably aware that bad people do use images in an exploitative fashion for their own gain and/or personal satisfaction, but a her age she would never ever have imagined that her teacher would do that before her classmates and peers.

Oh come on parents can check settings etc I do with my teen and have talked about stuff like this but sometimes teens make mistakes no matter what parents do.

It's not ok for the school to publicly use this mistake as a lesson for the whole school like this.

It will be interesting to hear what other teachers think of this.

The people saying "but she did that to herself by putting it up there" are so, so wrong. The humilation was not the existence of, and potential attention to the photo. The humiliation was in drawing attention to the photo, which the teacher actively did.

If you put your purse at the top of your bag and don't zip it up and put your bag on the floor outside a cafe, your friend - sensible clever friend who knows better and understands the risks - would say "don't leave your purse there".
Your enemy would steal the purse.

The teacher behaved like the enemy, not the friend, and it is no justification to say "if you leave yourself exposed, enemies may exploit you". Might be true - but teachers should not be the enemy.

Hear hear LineRunner.

Some of the holier than thou comments are really doing my head in.

I was really disgusted by this artical how dare they humiliate this poor girl like that. Really right now I would be trawling through the teacher list finding all those with insecure privacy setting and posting all their embarrassing details.

But she is a teenager, a child who has made a mistake and could have had it pointed out to her and her parents privately.

The teacher is an adult who capitalised on this mistake and decided to warn 100 pupils of the risks of social media to humiliate someone by ACTUALLY humiliating someone. Yes the point was made, but it was made at the expense of a young person without their consent.

Then there is the undertone that girls should be ashamed of their bodies and keep them covered up (but not too much) that I'm sure the Daily Mail was keep to capitalise upon. But I can't be sure of that because I am not fool enough to click on a Daily Fail link. Given their own side bar of 'shame' I imagine that the article managed to be both sanctimonious and hypocritical at the same time.

And excellent point vezzie

Absolutely agree with you.

I hope that the girl's teacher feels very very ashamed and apologises personally to their student.

I'm not enraged with the school.
The girl is 15, she & her peers have learnt a valuable lesson in a slightly embarrassing but safe way.
She was in a bikini FGS not butt naked. We don't know what the other photos that were shown were but we do know that they were all publicly available.
If I were the parent I'd be kicking myself for not teaching my child about internet safety, rectifying that mistake & soothing my child's bruised ego not ranting to the world about how unfair it is that I haven't taken responsibility for my child.

^ Every single word vezzie said. Well put.

If she put in on fb and had friends from school on it then it would have been shared. I don't think she should have been made an example of but really she is to blame. Maybe she'll think twice about exposing herself on social media which can be accessed by anyone. The parents can be enraged all they want but ultimately they are responsible for allowing her to put up such posts.

How did they come to select this particular girl out of all the other girls? I think it's an awful thing to do - picking on one girl in the hope of teaching the other girls a lesson. Talk about the sacrificial lamb. I'd be mad too if I was the mother. There are many ways of teaching a lesson without resorting to this sort of humiliation.

I agree completely with vezzie. This is horrible. Teachers should not be humiliating pupils in this fashion.

Nutcracker the pupils will have been told/reminded to improve their security settings many times. I don't believe I said there was anything wrong with the girl putting her photos on facebook; you must have misunderstood. She does need to change her security settings though, and I think her mother should make her aware of this. I think schools are forced to waste a great deal of valuable teaching time on media-misuse issues which should be dealt with by parents.
If it takes something like this to point out that what you put online is freely available for all to see. then so be it.

I wonder why a picture of a male in shorts wasn't used instead? It's very sexist IMO

Do we know that there were no pictures of boys in shorts?

Cross-posted with Vezzie who made the same point much better.

As for:
Speaking to the girl privately would have been better for her, but had no impact whatsoever on the other 99 kids, many of whom are probably being just as daft online. On balance, I think shock tactics were probably quite appropriate to the situation.

All for the greater good huh? The teacher could easily had up all the regular headshots and then had a number of embarassing pictures which did not belong to the pupils as examples of "But what if this was your photo?" Mind you... I suppose google searches for "bikini clad 15 year olds" might have got the teacher into a different sort of trouble, don't you think. Maybe would have been better to pick ones of people in onezies and ask if they'd want the person interviewing them for a job to see that... or one of people falling about drunk etc.

You know... I had teachers like that who felt my humiliation or someone else's were worth the lesson they had taken it upon themselves to teach. I think they were bullies and frequently rubbish teachers who lacked the imagination to make their point differently.

Indigo18: the article said everyone else was shown from the neck up.

I'd be furious with the school. I can't believe some of the comments on here, so what if the girl put the picture on Fb? The teachers had no right to do what they did they could have had a lesson about internet security without humiliating someone. There is a child at the end of this and the teachers should have known better.

A lot of time could be wasted having a private word with each of the 100 pupils I suppose... but I always wanted my children to be studying whilst in school. No time for lessons if everyone has to be spoken to individually