To ask how to pronounce croissant without sounding like a twat?

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So how do you do it?
I know how to say it properly as I speak reasonable French but I wonder if I sound like a pretentious twat. With close friends and family I get round it by doing it in an over exaggerated ironic way but how would I order one when out or how would I offer one to a casual acquaintance?
And as for Pain au Chocolat - I daren't even go there!!

I also say fa-hee-tas and fo-kah-chee-ah.

Has anyone else had a written invitation to 'drinks and canopies'?

There is no 'pie' in paella

pa-e-ya
(short a, short e, short a)

I have seen croissant spelt:
crusson
croisson
crusan
crusant

In Catalunya.

Lartay for latte makes me want to throw up, especially when it is really stretched like laaaaarrrrrrtay looking at you DM

As long as you put ALMOND before it it does not matter how you pronounce it.

There's not "F" in "merit in a dry croissant".

Cwasson
Pan-oh-shockola
Choreetho (or choreezo)

Chorit-zo is English people pronouncing it like You would in Italy for a Z. Like pizza.

And latty. Or should be cafe latty really, as latty in Italy would get you a cup of hot milk!!

And a constant battle in this house is scone. I reckon it's s-cone , DH says is Sconn.

it is Sconn (to rhyme with gone!)

what about ciabatta? I say chabatta, others say see-ah-batta

ilove cha-batta, all short As! Poncy Flatmate pronounced/s it char-bahh-tahh......

Good point mama re:coffees. I was going to say it is probably inferred when asking for a latte or an Americano that you are asking for a coffee rather than some milk or an American man with questionable Italian origin. But then I thought about asking for a 'white' or a 'black' and that REALLY doesn't work.

Long held debate in the Dunkling house too. But it is definitely sconn .

My dad lives in France and has taken French lessons over the years to help him integrate. One teacher told him his French is good but he needs to work on his French accent. He argued that he didn't need a French accent... he is an Englishman speaking French, so French with an English accent. Think this applies to all these pronunciations too, foreign words spoken with an English tongue.

I remember once getting a very eyerolly 'you are so stupid' correction of gnocchi from a waitress, 'Oh you want G'notchy' To be fair they did come fried in pesto...

What about plurals? If I only want one 'panini' what do I do? Can't abuse language, don't want to look like a twat, 'two panini please'

Oh and what about forte? I know fort is the correct way but 99.9% of people will assume I'm too stupid to say fort-tay.

I dont think I have ever heard it said as fort and googling suggests there is controversy about how it should be said. I have always said fort-ay

Forte (as in the marking used in music) is Italian, not French, so I think it is pronounced fort-tay. Does anyone else get annoyed about "reaching a crescendo"? Crescendo is the process of getting louder, not the end state. (Ooh, I love a bit of pedantry on a Sunday morning).

Forte - Italian - Fort ay.

As for reaching a crescendo, I have spat at the telly quite recently.

And Darcy B uttered 'could of' last night. I laughed, told her she was showing her roots. DH eye rolled!

Forte also comes from french Fort to mean strong which could also suggest it should be pronounced Fort (although I never have)

forte- relating to music is fortay (Italian)
forte - relating to strength is supposed to be fort (French)

I have only ever heard it pronounced fortay though

Yes I heard Darcy say that too!!

So .... gnocchi?? Is it nocki or nyocki??

www.thefreedictionary.com/forte

nyocki probably

Here oop North I always ask for a " lattay" but in London recently every time I did I got the response " a lah-Tay?"
Don't speak Italian but I think it's lattay??

Gnocchi is pronounced 'nocky'. 'ch' is always a hard 'c' in Italian, 'ci' is pronounced like an English 'ch'.

If you ask for a latte 'lattay' in Italy you will get milk, as that's what it mean.

bet no-one else lives with someone who insists on saying kee barb!

whilst I'm at it is it al mond or arl mond?

Qua-son is probably closest to what I say in my scottish accent
Pan-o-shockola

Spanish I can actually speak (unlike French). Chor-ee-tho is very Castilian Spanish but around the Catalan speaking areas and across South America they don't use the pronounced th sound. It's more chor-ee-zso.