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To think that this isn't a normal au pair experience

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foreverondiet · 03/10/2014 00:32

Ok am posting here as am quite prepared to be flamed if that's what everyone thinks.

So I found an au pair on au pair world and she arrived at the start of May. Plenty of communication in advance and I even prepared a detailed list of what the role was and also a contract which had a 6 week notice period. For the avoidance of doubt I was paying £140 for 30 hours which is fair /generous for an au pair, included all food etc, and also I said that I was happy for the role to be done over 3 days and therefore have 4 days off. She was 29 years old and from Canada. So no language issues and not a teenager. Not that it really matters to the story, but we paid her by bank transfer, gave her payslips, paid for nanny insurance, police check, first aid course etc etc.

The chores to be done when the children were at school were normal au pair type chores - almost all connected to the children - tidying their rooms, their laundry, food, toys etc. The general stuff was totally minimum - emptying dishwasher, moving washing from washing machine to dryer, and also hovering attic stairs and landing given she was the only person using the stairs and landing. And of course keeping her own bedroom, bathroom and (tiny) kitchenette clean.

When she arrived she looked nothing like her photo on au pair world, as she was about 4 stone+ heavier, but of course I said nothing I just didn't recognise her at the airport when I collected her. Also she told me she was gluten free but we took her out for lunch on the first day and she ordered a sandwich, but again I didn't say anything.

The first weekend we went to a little cottage at the coast, and she wasn't helpful at all - eg at one point I was walking on the beach carrying a folded buggy, 3 year old son and a rucksack and she didn't offer to help me. Or just watched while we looked after the kids, prepared and cleaned up the food etc. I guess she saw it as the weekend so she wasn't on duty but I did feel if she wanted to come with she could have been a tiny bit helpful. I put her down to her being shy.

As we settled into the routine, she basically refused to hoover the attic stairs and hallway and several times I had to ask her to clean the kitchenette and bathroom as it really was left in a vile state - slimey worksurfaces / overflowing bins / left food out / etc. Of course I never went into her bedroom.

Often I'd come back from work (she looked after the kids for the 3 days I worked after work so 3.30-6pm) and she would be play on her phone and the kids playing on ipad / ipod. If I asked her to clean kids bedrooms was always done in half heartened way. She always put the clothes away in the wrong cupboards - eg Thomas tank age 3-4 pants in my 10 year old daughter's drawer (although do see that might be harder to distinguish the blue school socks as they all look the same) but as there is 4 years between DS1 and DS2 its pretty each to tell whose clothes are whose.

We had a few meetings with her when we sat down and tried to explain about the chores (which were not onerous) but I guess I got used to having to do it all in the evenings. By this point I really wasn't keen on her and I guess it probably became obvious although I always tried to remain polite. I knew she was doing no where near the 30 hours (but I was at work so couldn't see what was going on - I work 3 days a week). I also knew that when she was "looking after the kids" it meant her playing on phone in same room as them.

Last Monday I lost it - basically came home - she is playing on phone, (DS1 is out at self deference), DD and DS2 play in own rooms on ipad and ipod. I said to her, please could you next week ask DD to do her homework before she plays on her ipod. But the au pair said no she couldn't as she wouldn't remember. So I said ok then please put a reminder on her phone, but she said couldn't. So I said did she need me to put a reminder on my phone and I could text her and she said no, sorry she would be too busy. And anyway she was 10 couldn't she remember to do her own homework.

I was pretty upset, so I posted a new ad on au pair world, and told DH that he had to speak to her as I didn't trust myself not to shout at her, and also I hate conflict.

Anyway on Friday she said she is going away for the weekend with her friend, and she'd be back on Sunday night after midnight (starts work at 7.30am Monday morning). On Sunday pm my parents are visiting and my mum says, (we only moved into our house a few months ago) I haven't seen inside the nanny bedroom can I have a look. I said well she is away but ok have a quick peek. So my mum goes it and the au pair has done a runner!

I get a whatsapp at 6.30am on sunday saying I am a complete bitch and she saw my add on au pair world and no she isn't coming back. I am so scared on making the same mistake again.

OP posts:
LizLimone · 03/10/2014 00:45

Sounds like you're well rid of her!

Can't comment on whether this is a normal au pair experience as I've never hired one but I would certainly hope not...

ChippingInLatteLover · 03/10/2014 01:03

You've posted about her before haven't you?

ChippingInLatteLover · 03/10/2014 01:05

When she arrived she looked nothing like her photo on au pair world, as she was about 4 stone+ heavier, but of course I said nothing

How was this at all relevant to your post?

StackladysMorphicResonator · 03/10/2014 01:16

Chipping - I've noticed a lot of unhelpful posts on other threads from you. If you're not happy to helpfully advise the OP then stop bloody posting! Stop trying to wind everyone up all the time, it's mean, unhelpful and makes you seem like a horrible person.

OP - no, it's not a normal AP experience, and you're obviously well shot of her. Sorry it turned out badly for you, I hope the next AP you have is better. Don't forget to get references and check them religiously.

Delphine31 · 03/10/2014 01:19

Better off without her. There are so many lovely au pairs out there who will enjoy engaging with your kids and will be at pains to be helpful.

Trick is to try to find an au pair who wants to do the job because they love kids as well as wanting to experience living in a new country, rather than someone just looking for a free roof over their head while they 'do' the UK.

Maybe do Skype interviews so you can see body language etc. Which might help you guage enthusiasm for the job.

ChippingInLatteLover · 03/10/2014 01:29

stacklady please feel free to report any of my posts to MNHQ.

ArsenicFaceCream · 03/10/2014 01:44

No, Chipping is right - why is the weight relevant?

You really think someone underestimating their weight has a sinister explanation? Or is evidence of fundamental dishonesty? Hmm

ChippingInLatteLover · 03/10/2014 01:48

Stack Actually, that has really pissed me off. It is not on to randomly accuse someone in that way. If you have an issue with any of my (or anyone else's), posts, then take it up with me (or them) on the actual thread.

Sp1rals · 03/10/2014 03:11

4 stone is a bit of a difference, maybe the op felt that she had misrepresented herself, including appearance. Whatever we like to think about ourselves, if we are flicking through au pair cvs, we do judge on appearance to a certain extent. And weight is usually related to health and eating habits. All of which are relevant when looking after children.

thewrongmans · 03/10/2014 03:35

so she was overweight, didn't want to work unpaid on her day off and didn't remind a 10 year old to do homework. You sound hard work and I am not surprised she left! probably a good idea that your son is taking 'deference' lessons Grin.

Mouthfulofquiz · 03/10/2014 03:50

I don't think the OP is saying that being 4 stone heavier than you should be is a bad thing - she is saying that she didn't look like her picture. People seem to be a bit oversensitive! The au pair sounds very lazy and you are well rid.

Mouthfulofquiz · 03/10/2014 03:52

But... Putting an ad on the site before speaking to her wasn't great! Imagine how that would make you feel, even if you were crap at your job!

vitabrits · 03/10/2014 04:16

4 stone difference in weight is relevant. It shows that she misrepresented herself in her photo. It also could have made a difference in some of the activities she was required to do with the children eg fitness-related.

LindyHemming · 03/10/2014 04:23

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claraschu · 03/10/2014 04:23

She sounds absolutely horrible. An decent au pair actually enjoys and takes an interest in the kids, and also acts like a family member, not a resentful hireling.

The point about the picture is that it was unrecognisable, just like the description of the person on Au Pair World was nothing like the person who showed up.

I can't believe the comments on here-

PumpkinBones · 03/10/2014 04:47

I interpreted it as evidence of ways in which the op felt she may have been dishonest, as with the gluten free thing.

TheDietStartsTomorrow · 03/10/2014 05:04

Its deceptive to put a photo on showing yourself to a prospective employer that is a complete misrepresentation of what actually look like. That's why its relevant.

Pumpkinpositive · 03/10/2014 05:07

She doesn't sound good. In that respect, you are well rid.

However, a couple of things I'm not clear about. You asked your DH to "speak to her". Presumably this was to give her her marching orders?

Did he speak to her? Because it sounds as if she found out she was persona non grata from looking at the website, which can't have been pleasant.

ILovePud · 03/10/2014 06:33

Her appearance is irrelevant, it sounds like if you'd have known what she weighed you'd have made lots of unfair negative assumptions about her and about her ability to do the job, sadly from reading some other people's post it sounds like you wouldn't be alone in this. Just to be clear, she posted a picture of herself in which you made the judgment that she looked about 4 stone lighter than she was, so we don't know how accurate that was and she didn't have to disclose her weight anyway so I don't think she's been dishonest in that respect. I also think that finding out that you're going to be out of a job and your accommodation by seeing your employer's advert on a website is awful. From what you describe her behaviour was unreasonable but the weight and advert thing have tainted my view of the situation and I wonder whether this is just your side of things and the AuPair may tell a very different story.

LittleBairn · 03/10/2014 06:39

She sounds awful but you were wrong not to speak to her before posting the ad. As a live in childcare (I used to be a live in nanny) its a precarious situation it can be frightening if your position is under threat and you are in a foreign country. I would have left immediately too, how could she trust you not chuck her out in the middle of the night without notice?

Expedititition · 03/10/2014 06:45

I read the comment about weight and though here we go. Everyone will jump on that and ignore the rest. I actually think the weight thing is relevant. She misrepresented herself.

Well actually I would be pissed off with her too. Well rid and she has saved you the pain of having her moping around the house for her 6 weeks notice period. She clearly isn't interested in being an au pair. 3 days a week is hardly a hardship.

Do you actually need an au pair OP. Could you go down a nanny route or just use breakfast/after school clubs? It sounds like your children are older and the hours not long. Might save you a whole lot of effort at finding a good au pair?

I would say it's a bit unsubtle to advertise her job before speaking to her though.

FunkyBoldRibena · 03/10/2014 06:58

Was it even a photo of her? She wouldnt have lasted the week in this house.

WipsGlitter · 03/10/2014 06:59

However the au pair was also perusing the site presumably looking for another job!

She sounds a nightmare. Although the hoovering and not keeping her personal space clean would not have bothered me.

confusedandemployed · 03/10/2014 07:07

She sounds awful. Of course misrepresenting herself is relevant. This place makes me laugh. You are well rid, just be relieved she's gone and a horrible situation is resolved.

People are strange on this site, the lengths they will go to to snipe at someone. And as for 'not wanting to work on her day off' - seriously Shock? Helping someone who clearly needs a hand is called called being a human being, not working overtime. And anyway, would you not expect the new AP to want to get to know the children she's looking after?
OK so maybe OP didn't handle the exit very well but I can't see what the AP did to endear herself to her employers.
Extraordinary response from some.

confusedandemployed · 03/10/2014 07:07

Wips that's exactly what I was thinking!