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AIBU?

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To be tired of teachers exaggerating

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onarailwaytrain · 29/09/2014 22:19

Dd and DS (twins) in year 11 at the moment and all we have heard is how they have to get their GCSEs, their lives will be ruined if they don't, they will never get to college and never get a good job. Etc.

Dd in particular is unlikely to get many cs or above. AIBU in thinking the teachers should back off a bit?

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Delphiniumsblue · 02/10/2014 17:42

Talk to the teacher and/or Head and explain- that solves the immediate problem. I agree it is a huge problem.
However, you still are left with the fact that however nice everyone can be it is going to be very dispiriting to fail in subsequent years- that is what everyone needs to tackle. It is going to make thousands feel inadequate.
You can only start with the one teacher and you could contact your MP.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 17:43

Itsfab, the point is only obvious if you have the capacity to pass in the first place - if they don't you are setting them up for a lifetime of misery.

Try to imagine a pe teacher shouting and humiliating a wheelchair bound child - for not running. Reasonable? Obviously not! But my DCs have the equivalent on a daily basis.

Mrs; quite.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 17:43

Itsfab, the point is only obvious if you have the capacity to pass in the first place - if they don't you are setting them up for a lifetime of misery.

Try to imagine a pe teacher shouting and humiliating a wheelchair bound child - for not running. Reasonable? Obviously not! But my DCs have the equivalent on a daily basis.

Mrs; quite.

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mrsruffallo · 02/10/2014 17:43

I would be proud of the fact they are nice people. They can still start from the bottom and work up in some industries- retail for example.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 17:43

I'm so sorry! Everything is posting twice Hmm

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 17:43

I'm so sorry! Everything is posting twice Hmm

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Delphiniumsblue · 02/10/2014 17:45

The system is WRONG, WRONG,WRONG but you can at least try to make the school understand they need encouragement and their self esteem boosting.

Cherrypi · 02/10/2014 17:56

I don't think you can compare being physically disabled with not being able to do maths. Every NT person can get a GCSE grade C with enough practise and the correct parental attitude.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 18:01

I have said they have sen so many times now ...

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mrsruffallo · 02/10/2014 18:02

IME Teachers are generally well respected by parents. It's the odd one who is a bit of a pain but on the whole, people are grateful and trying to work with you. All this ' a teachers place is in the wrong' poor me stuff is grating on me. It's a profession, one that many people love and enjoy. And the pay isn't that bad, actually.

Delphiniumsblue · 02/10/2014 18:03

There was nothing wrong with they system as it was. When DS did his apprenticeship he went to college one day a week. Those who didn't have the C grade in English and Maths had extra tuition- not for an exam- just the basics. DS thankfully escaped that, although how he got a C in English is a mystery to me!
They were not made to feel failures.

That simply isn't true Cherrypi- the average is only the average because there are those above and below. The government don't appear to understand 'average'- a minister was trying to explain the bizarre statement that he wanted all pupils to be above average!!

mrsruffallo · 02/10/2014 18:10

Nomama- what a waste of time, making kids stay in school until they are eighteen. You'll be stuck with the ones who want to leave for another 2 years! It's ridiculous.

Cherrypi · 02/10/2014 18:10

Maybe he was talking about the mode hey Delphinium ;-)? I don't think everyone achieves their potential in maths.

Don't worry op maybe next year when they're resitting they'll get one of the many teachers who are hoping to quit and they won't give a monkeys about trying to motivate your kids.

mrsruffallo · 02/10/2014 18:12

Delphi- Start your own thread, don't hijack OPs. Then you can moan as much as you like about your job without pissing off the OP who started this from a different perspective.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 18:14

I'm not pissed off exactly but it's upsetting as delphiniums seems to want to urge me and other mums into action. I get that but I didn't start the thread to moan about the system. I was looking for support and understanding - mumsnet is normally hot on sen stuff so you can see why I'm upset.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 18:16

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ithoughtofitfirst · 02/10/2014 18:20

I love it when teachers really love their jobs. So inspiring.

mrsruffallo · 02/10/2014 18:21

Many teachers have just gone to great lengths to explain that the 'motivating' of low ability kids is linked to getting a pay rise. Armed with this information, parents of kids who are being 'motivated' by being made to fear the future and feel like failures ahve every right to question those teachers.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 18:27

Fucking hell, so it's okay to bash someone's self worth to pieces because you might lose pay?

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mrsruffallo · 02/10/2014 18:31

Exactly, oart, that's the message I'm getting from this.

RufusTheReindeer · 02/10/2014 18:39

I think the old system seems better

Academic children did o levels

Not so academic did CSE, grade 1 being the equivalent of an O level

Grade 2 being a good CSE grade and grade 3 being ok

So the equivalent GCSE grades D And E still being seen as a pass

Disclaimer, I'm getting too old to remember What really happened with CSEs it's just what I think happened

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 18:39

Thank you mrs!

I have not at any point said teachers have it easy but the overall message is just 'poor poor us. Our mortgages. Our pay. Never mind your kids as they are probably lazy and if they worked harder ...'

So not true.

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Kendodd · 02/10/2014 18:45

Railway

Have you read my posts from 11:33 yesterday? Let me know if you want that book.

Dinosaurporn · 02/10/2014 18:56

How about OP if you stop being so aggressive. If you are looking for support being aggressive to anyone who doesn't agree with you isn't going to work.

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onarailwaytrain · 02/10/2014 18:57

Don't you patronise me dinosaur I've had 13 pages of this and I'm fed up.

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