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to throw this letter in the bin about DS being called overweight and bake a cake instead

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iknowmychildbest · 27/09/2014 12:59

I cannot believe I've been sent a letter calling my 7 y/o Ds overweight and a patronising letter on health advice. Our families have always been quite big, and his dad plays rugby every week and is large but as fit as a butchers dog

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KoalaKoo · 27/09/2014 15:09

Here, click 2-18yrs www.rcpch.ac.uk/growthcharts

shebird · 27/09/2014 15:15

It's hard to say OP without more detail but as its your duty as a parent to look after your sons welfare maybe ditch the cake and go for a walk instead.

KoalaDownUnder · 27/09/2014 15:49

I am really surprised by some of the numbers bring thrown around here. I am 5'10", and I am definitely overweight if I get up to a size 14!

OP, if this is real, stop being so dismissive about your child's health.

Only1scoop · 27/09/2014 15:56

Ditch making the cake....take it seriously ....if he's only young you can make a huge difference to his wellbeing and fitness.

sanfairyanne · 27/09/2014 16:08

huge perhaps is morbidly obese?

i am 5 10 and just overweight at size 14, which matches another poster's observations

TeracottaTurtle · 27/09/2014 16:38

I disagree with that kids NHS BMI calculator. It's not going to be accurate for all kids because, like any BMI calculator it doesn't take account of build.

DS1 is 6...125cm and 28.2kg. The NHS calculator puts him at 'overweight' on the 94th percentile for body mass.

He's not overweight in the slightest. When he lifts his arms I could play a tune on his ribs, there's not an ounce of fat on him, anywhere.
He eats a very healthy diet and is one of the most active kids I've ever seen. But in build, he takes after dh (who is 6ft 5 and a rugby player). He's tall and has very broad shoulders, a large head (has to wear adult baseball caps as kids ones won't fit Hmm )and huge hands and feet for his age (size 3).

TeracottaTurtle · 27/09/2014 16:46

Anyway...only the op knows her own ds and whether she is bu or not.

If I had a letter telling me ds1 was overweight then in the bin is exactly where it would go.

naty1 · 27/09/2014 16:47

I think an adult being a stone overweight doesnt sound too much and may not take very long to lose but on a smaller frame what it means is there is an extra 1/11 of fat say. Or if you imagine that stone is mainly on waist it is quite a lot. Also there is no need to aim for the top of the healthy range, its a range to account for different frames.

I wonder if taller dC may actually be thinner as they use it growing, shorter just lay down fat.

I guess parents down know how many kids in a class are being called overweight so get a letter and think but DC is the thinnest in the class.

Im probably one of the smallest frame people i know but by bmi is 21, so not that thin. Maybe an individual ideal weight would be better like the pay scales in Boots do/used to.

Nhs bmi calc now has approx calories on it too which could be useful

ouryve · 27/09/2014 16:51

Your child's dad's rugby playing isn't going to make your child fit.

Just as likely as your family all being big due to genetics is the possibility that they're all big because they all eat the same.

TeracottaTurtle · 27/09/2014 17:38

Ouryve...you can eat as much as you like, it won't make your shoulders grow broader or your hands and feet and head get bigger.

When some people say they have a dh/child who is of a large build, sometimes it means just that...not that they're burying their head in the sand and ignoring their little darlings rolls of fat.

GreenPetal94 · 27/09/2014 17:44

If you still have the old red book, then they have percentile charts for height and weight up to age 20. So if you find his height is for example on the 25 percentile and his weight on the 75th you would then need to be a bit concerned etc...

SugarPlump · 27/09/2014 17:51

I think the OPs name is going to give away how much she's going to listen to advice

I'm someone who detests the BMI calculator as I've seen kids who are bean poles and children that are the more beefy shape without the fat been told their over weight.
But unless your son is also playing rugby I'm not sure why you've brought up his dad's game. Just cos his dad is fit doesn't mean your son is!

As has been said there's a difference between being overweight and fit.

But as you said you know your child best and you dislike anyone else's input, so why did you ask.

Does your child have excess fat, or is he just tall or is it his build? If he has excess fat and by our family are all big you mean you all eat to much then yes you are being unreasonable if your saying your all tall and heavy built then no your not!

TeracottaTurtle · 27/09/2014 17:54

I think op mentioned the rugby as an indication of his dad's build, which he may well inherit. Not because his dad's exercise habits have anything to do with the health of his dc.

vindscreenviper · 27/09/2014 18:18

Who sent you the letter OP? When and where did they weigh your child? AFAIK there is no official programme to monitor the weight of 7 year olds in England, but I am happy to be corrected if wrong. Are the names/details etc in the letter correct, perhaps it's been sent to you in error?
A few other posters have asked these questions but you haven't said.

PickledLilly · 27/09/2014 18:19

I'm 5ft, if I were a 14 I'd look rotund. I do think we are losing sight of what is 'normal' and healthy in this country, as people are getting bigger and bigger, our perception of what is a normal weight has gone out of the window.

PatSharpesfabulousmullet · 27/09/2014 18:26

I have 3 dd's, eldest & youngest very thin, middle daughter slightly chubby (but never shown as overweight at reception weigh-in), all do gymnastics, swimming & dance every week and numerous trips to park, walks etc, all eat the same healthy diet, so why the difference? Their father is v tall and thin and eats like a horse, I am average height and while reasonably fit, have to really watch my diet to maintain a size 8-10. Unfortunately it looks like my middle daughter takes after me more and will have to work harder than her sisters to be slim and look healthy, even though their lifestyle's are currently identical. Sometimes it's down to diet & exercise, sometimes it must be at least partly genetic. However I feel those of us who do gain weight more easily shouldn't just give up and accept it, we just need to work alittle harder at keeping fit and healthy and make sure we foster the same attitudes in our children.

ouryve · 27/09/2014 18:39

And when some people say "well built" they do, indeed, mean overweight.

It's impossible to judge, anyhow, without seeing for ourselves, and that's assuming that the whole thing is real and not simply a case of lighting the blue touch paper and getting a thrill out of the ensuing fireworks.

I'm 5'4, size 14 and about half a stone overweight, btw.

Darkesteyes · 27/09/2014 18:40

Im 5 foot 5 and a size 18 (down from a 28) then down to a 12 then up to size 22 now back down to an 18 and still losing. Had a bra fitting this week and the fitter said "you have such a small back and shoulders Its just that you have a big cup size.

And a stone doesnt come off "just like that" either At 40/41 its taken me over a year to lose 3 stone. In a healthy way not following shit thats in Closer magazine!

When i was 29 i lost a stone a month for 7 months (lost 10 stone altogether) but got gallstones from losing weight too quickly And i was told that it was fast weight loss that caused it by two doctors and the surgeon that did my operation (gall bladder removal)

HappyYoni · 27/09/2014 18:42

Worra I'm 5 foot and a size 20, and I do find it offensive that you would label me as huge. I am most definitely overweight obviously, but it's hard to consider myself as huge when I am so much shorter than most people I know, so even with all the extra weight I tend to take up less room than my friends who may be five foot 8 and a size 12, I still fit into aeroplane seats better than they do :)
However I do like the use of the salt n pepa quite re arseholes.

Andrewofgg · 27/09/2014 18:42

OP We are all anonymous here. State his height and weight and let's work it out.

Darkesteyes · 27/09/2014 18:42

Perception going out the window works the other way too. Marina Rinaldi have a size 6 model modelling their ranges MR are plus size.

gamescompendium · 27/09/2014 18:44

I wonder if taller DC may actually be thinner as they use it growing, shorter just lay down fat.

In my experience this isn't necessarily the case. DD1 is the shortest girl in her class but not at all fat, just like her father who is one of those people who is as short (5'5") and skinny (BMI at the very bottom of the healthy scale) as anything despite not really appearing to work hard at it, his siblings are the same Envy.

minifingers · 27/09/2014 18:47

"I have 3 dd's, eldest & youngest very thin, middle daughter slightly chubby (but never shown as overweight at reception weigh-in), all do gymnastics, swimming & dance every week and numerous trips to park, walks etc, all eat the same healthy diet"

It's easy, easy, easy to consume an extra 1000 calories a week - a few biscuits, an extra bag of crisps, the odd meal with seconds, a couple of extra glasses of squash, which over a year will result in overweight.

Honestly - unless you're weighing and measuring your children's food you have no idea of their EXACT intake. The overwhelming likelihood is that your chubby daughter eats more than her sisters. Maybe only a bit more, but enough to make her fat over a period of time.

minifingers · 27/09/2014 18:53

chubby?

Which one of these does your ds look like?

vindscreenviper · 27/09/2014 19:23

The OP is not answering questions at the moment minifingers ,she's too busy trying to feed fictitious cake to her fictitious DS.

This thread hasn't been a complete waste of time for me though, I have just had to check up on the difference between fictional and fictitious before commenting Grin