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To think this is hideously misogynist

111 replies

Charitybelle · 26/09/2014 20:10

A guy I know has posted a status on Facebook (I know I know) saying that he 'wished more women were like his baby daughter, beautiful, unable to speak or criticise him, and able to get her feet in her mouth'.

AIBU to think this is a disgusting thing to think, never mind actually say on a social media site? Not sure if I'm overreacting, but I feel really sorry for his dd if this is the attitude her dad has to women. I realise it's meant to be tongue in cheek, but judging from previous 'ball and chain' esque comments he's made at social events about his wife, I suspect it does betray a very real and present misogyny.

I think my DH (who is in no way a sexist, but very relaxed about everything) would tell me to chill out and ignore it, but more and more I'm seeing this sort of thing as the tip of the sexist iceberg. Am I going crazy, or is this man a knuckle dragging Neanderthal?

OP posts:
Suzannewithaplan · 27/09/2014 11:02

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The fact that he posted it suggests he doesn't anticipate either that a) anyone will see a problem or b) anyone will call him on it?
If that is the case then criticism may just result in a 'shoot the messenger' response? ? ?

Not saying that the OP shouldn't make a stand but what would be the best approach?

Suzannewithaplan · 27/09/2014 11:06

I also think that on FB there is likely to be a large element of 'birds of a feather flock together' those that you are friends with will tend to have similar views and attitudes ? ?and anyone who breaks ranks risks being sanctioned in some way?

Bigoldsupermoon · 27/09/2014 11:15

Does it actually matter if the OP gets a bit of stick from this man? She's a grown woman, and what's he actually going to do? A nasty Facebook comment from this scumbag isn't exactly going to do her lasting damage and, given that these are already his views, it's not like he can respect her (meagre woman that she is) very much in the first place. The OP has already said they're not particularly close, but that she can't be bothered to say anything.

It's not nice to get ganged up on on Facebook or wherever, but what's the alternative? Are we actually saying it's OK to keep your mouth shut when some bloke makes sexual comments about his infant daughter because you don't fancy getting shouted at on Facebook?

If he's not expecting to be called on it, and he can't see why there's a problem with it, then perhaps the OP could enlighten him for the sake of that baby girl rather than just ranting about it (understandably) on here. Just because something is hard doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. And if the OP is flying with a flock that shares views similar to this guy, I can only suggest she gets some new friends pretty bloody sharpish.

Bigoldsupermoon · 27/09/2014 11:15

Does it actually matter if the OP gets a bit of stick from this man? She's a grown woman, and what's he actually going to do? A nasty Facebook comment from this scumbag isn't exactly going to do her lasting damage and, given that these are already his views, it's not like he can respect her (meagre woman that she is) very much in the first place. The OP has already said they're not particularly close, but that she can't be bothered to say anything.

It's not nice to get ganged up on on Facebook or wherever, but what's the alternative? Are we actually saying it's OK to keep your mouth shut when some bloke makes sexual comments about his infant daughter because you don't fancy getting shouted at on Facebook?

If he's not expecting to be called on it, and he can't see why there's a problem with it, then perhaps the OP could enlighten him for the sake of that baby girl rather than just ranting about it (understandably) on here. Just because something is hard doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. And if the OP is flying with a flock that shares views similar to this guy, I can only suggest she gets some new friends pretty bloody sharpish.

Aeroflotgirl · 27/09/2014 11:18

Yanbu he sounds creepy. Poor dd, I think he will be an ex partner soon, I would not tolerate that.

Suzannewithaplan · 27/09/2014 11:27

Even if the OP isn't bothered about getting any stick would any of the FB ers who read her post actually agree with her or see her point, apologies for gettin' biblical here but
'do not c?ast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces'?

Bigoldsupermoon · 27/09/2014 11:37

Oh, well best not say anything at all then, and just stay friendly and Facebooky with some pervert who thinks women should be silent sex objects and makes sexual comments about his own baby daughter.

My bad. I'm off, anyway - I can't look at this thread without feeling sick. I just hope somebody stands up to the guy in question and at least attempts to give him a wake-up call about his behaviour, rather than just ignoring it.

Suzannewithaplan · 27/09/2014 11:46

no no really Bigbold I dont think the OP should say nothing!
I just wonder how best to say something?
If I was the OP I'd probably say what I've said on here and hope that even if they didnt openly agree with me at least some of them would see my point of view

AnyFucker · 27/09/2014 12:03

If Op were to challenge this, for every wrongheaded sheep that sided with him, there will be many others who agree with her albeit silently.

All it takes is one good man (or woman)

ocelot41 · 27/09/2014 12:07

I think write him a card which stresses that his DD will be likely to model her later relationships with men on the way that he relates to her and the messages he sends out about how what gains his approval and disapproval. So you would like him to think VERY carefully about the kind of role model he wants to be in her life!

Goodadvice1980 · 27/09/2014 12:11

Sounds like the kind of prick who also shares "Britain First" status updates Sad

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