to think no one should own land and ignore a sign saying private woods

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Ok o will probably get flamed here.

But there is a badly managed woods near me with am old broken sign that say private woods. Aibu to collect a few broken branches for the wood burner? I know it is stealing, but this woods is overgrown and I'm thinking how unethical it is for anyone to own land.

Land used to all be free, until someone carved it all up to hoard for themselves. If land was still free now maybe we wouldn't have to all be working such stupid hours wasting our lives doing a job we don't like.

but it's not illegal to pick blackberries to eat

dunno about firewood

I have been known to knock on doors when I see fruit trees and bushes laden with fruit that it not being picked. I used to pick fruit for a neighbour who was no longer able to do it himself and make him a crumble or two. I would be happy for people to help themselves to my holly if asked.

If I have something to share with someone I will try to do so. It is called being a decent human being.

I have read some crazy threads here, but this one is the craziest yet - congratulations OP on the most bizarre train of thought I've come across, you've made my Friday afternoon.

Now I'm off to walk my dogs through some woods owned by some other landowning capitalist who has been kind enough to give me permission to do so - I get all the pleasure of using them with none of the responsibility.

ThatBloodyWoman - I only pick blackberries that are growing on common land. I don't pick blackberries that are growing on someone else's land.

And sometimes I pick blackberries in Tesco, and pay for them at the checkout.

HTH

Do you see my point though?
Some of us do ask.
Many of us don't.
But I can't see this outcry over someone picking blackberries.
Where's the difference?

Empty Fields are normally part of a farmer's crop rotation scheme, I think. A seemingly "empty" field is actually being left to farrow, or to recover from having been worked. (That's what I remember from my Rural Science lessons many, many years ago, anyway). Someone far more experienced in farming would be able to explain more succinctly and accurately, (PLEASE)

Foraging is different from thieving.

The landowner where I pick does like permission to be sought.

If it is not illegal to pick/forage blackberries, why would it be illegal to collect falkenvwoid?

because you're allowed to pick fruit to eat

although I don't think many of us object to someone pilfering firewood, it's the all the other weirdness and hypocrisy from the OP

How the fuck fallen wood makes falkenvwoid I do not know......!

ThatBloodyWoman - the difference is, that OP is taking branches from a place that is clearly labelled "Private Land", which is exactly the same as stealing. She shouldn't pick blackberries from there either.

On any public council-owned land, it would be a different matter, I think.

What if someone wants to forage in your garden?

wood is more valuable? the owner might have something in mind for it? I dunno but is definitely different from picking and eating a few blackberries

if you picked enough blackberries to sell that would be theft btw

Yes I am vegan.
It's only by 'owning' dogs and sheep which I don't think we should do anyway that this happens.
I'm not saying it's nice for a dog to kill a sheep but neither is it nice for a person to kill Sheep. And people specifically breed and kill millions! A dog does this out of instinct. We have a choice.

Yy. I wouldn't trespass to pick blackberries.
Or indeed dress my desire to pick blackberries up as a campaign against the inequalities in our society.

Re blackberries, people come and pick them from the roadside, and that's fine. It's a good use of natural resources, and a few individuals picking berries isn't going to materially affect us or the needs of the local wildlife.

I'd question it if they came in gangs to strip the bushes wholesale, though, or if they came over the fences/walls or through the gates into our fields. I'd expect them to at least have the common decency to ask before they did that.

mehsmum yes fair point - I just meant I agreed in principle, but you're right that it might not apply here and that there's no evidence that it does

Bullshit! would you let someone squat in your house.

I believe that to be myth.

Evans, 'farrow' means to have piglets.
'Fallow' was the word you needed.
2/10 in Rural Science

Fields are very rarely fallowed in the UK now. They just look empty to the untrained eye when covered with stubble, recently ploughed or harrowed, waiting for hay to grow and be cut, or being rested over winter when the stock are indoors.

Somebody who actually farms would know more than me (I get 4/10 for Rural Science...)

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11584156

The rules on fruit foraging.

OP please address hooby's excellent Badger question.

You don't want to seem unreasonable in any way do you?

If it is not illegal to pick/forage blackberries, why would it be illegal to collect falkenvwoid?

It is illegal if it is clearly on private land. It is trespass and theft
And collecting fallen, dead wood, on private land which the owner may have left there purposely to attract insect life (as I outlined above) is just not on. If someone came onto my land, my garden, to collect stuff as they saw fit, because they think they are entitled to, would get extremely short shrift from me. I actually work very hard to actively encourage wildlife of all sorts - I would be furious if someone came in and helped themselves and disrupted my wildlife plans.

Meh - thank you!!