to think no one should own land and ignore a sign saying private woods

[mls3]

Ok o will probably get flamed here.

But there is a badly managed woods near me with am old broken sign that say private woods. Aibu to collect a few broken branches for the wood burner? I know it is stealing, but this woods is overgrown and I'm thinking how unethical it is for anyone to own land.

Land used to all be free, until someone carved it all up to hoard for themselves. If land was still free now maybe we wouldn't have to all be working such stupid hours wasting our lives doing a job we don't like.

I MUST go and do some work.

Yes I own a house and a few square meters of land, they are well matqined and secured and show obvious signs of regular use. If they fell in to disrepair, had not been used for half a century and people could gain access without damaging anything then I'd be well up for people making the most of them

Do you really "own" your few sq mtres of land, or do they really belong to someone else? I thought no-one was allowed to own land nowadays - I thought you said all land belonged to everyone else and any "owned" land had been stolen from the masses.
Now I really am confused

This has been the best thread for ages, and I look forward to an eruption of the "aren't MNers bitches" sort of thing.

I thought the French Way was bum sex. Has this whole thread been the most circuitous Friday thread ever?

Gosh you girls can get so ridiculous.

I dislike the 1% owning more land than they will ever need and thus taking it away from the people.

well there are exceptions eg you don't own any coal or gold or some other valuable stuff in your land, the Crown can claim that

So, when are you giving your house back? Presumably to The People?

Ooh, we have 'girls'

Baffled

Girls now are we? I haven't been a girl for 30 years, though people I know well can call me 'girl' as a term of address.

The yet-be-proven-that-the-numbers-are-right "1"% are largely farmers who need that land to make a living. Some of them make a bloody good living and some of them don't, but they don't just sit on their arses and watch the lolly roll through the door.

"When did I say ownership of any land is ethical? Hint I didn't so don't make stuff up to put in my mouth."

OK, mls3 - if all ownership of land is unethical, when will you be giving your land to the poor and needy/whoever you think should own land?

Or to phrase the question another way - if it is unethical for anyone to own land, why do YOU own land?

Actually woods do need managing in order to encourage wildlife. If you just let anything grow wherever it wants you tend to find that certain invasive species take over. Which isn't always good for wildlife. We have a small woods in Scotland and it needs a lot of management to keep it in a state where red squirrels flourish, the deer don't eat bits of saplings and there's a chance we might get pine martens.

Gosh you girls can get so ridiculous

Pah-hah-hah
Now I have to get a cloth to clean up my spluttered coffee
I haven't been called a "girl" for many years That's really made my day

I assumed that someone as ethical as yourself would only own land if you thought it was ethical for you to do so, mls3.

I dislike the 1% owning more land than they will ever need and thus taking it away from the people.

No. You like other people's twigs.

So in summary:

We shall all be eating cake shortly.
Theft from others is OK but being the victim of theft is just not on.
Statistics can be googled if it matters that much but it is OK to stick with a 1% figure when it suits.
We are all ridiculous girls.
It is OK to shoot animals that are harming other animals. Unless you are a Vegan in which case will someone please think of all the animals.
Woodlands need maintaining except for when they don't.

I am also delighted to be referred to as a Girl! Are you flirting with me?

Might want to save that for getting pally with HRH ?

Not to mention those bastards at the National Trust.
Coming over here, hoarding our land, charging good ethical people hard earned money to walk around on what should be rightfully theirs (assuming they can trace their ancestry back 8000 years through a purely-British bloodline)

HRH will purr down the phone when called a girl. She just loves that sort of thing.

You forgot "it's never ok to own property unless you actually do"

I'm not sure being called 'girl' is HRH's thing VSeth

If I've understood your point correctly OP then I agree with you!

It sounds like you take issue with the 1% (or however many %) owning loads of land / property but then not making use of it.. and therefore depriving others of the use of it. I don't get the sense that you are all about chucking toffs out of the houses they actually live in or the gardens they clearly use...
So your position about owning your own home makes sense to me anyway.

However I wouldn't link that (in my mind) to the question of whether I should pick up a few sticks lying around the place I would just take them

Thank you Meh (still dribbling a bit)
Now have to do some work myself - hard to tear away, really!

I dislike the 1% owning more land than they will ever need and thus taking it away from the people.

But the owners pay for the upkeep, pay insurance in case a falling branch hits someone. When are 'the people' going to do the upkeep on all this land they should supposedly own? Who pays the bills on it, 'the people' again? Some of 'the people' would like woodlands to have coffee shops and toilets, other groups of 'the people' would like them left totally undisturbed and back to nature. 'The people' cannot possibly make those decisions or take on those financial responsibilities.