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AIBU to think they should pay for our stuff

116 replies

jammiecat · 22/09/2014 16:23

Sorry this is likely to be long. First time posting in AIBU but prepared to be told IABU, and I know I was partly. Anyway, went on holiday and asked friend and neighbour to feed the cats. Came back to find she had taken it upon herself to clean and tidy our house, enlisting the help of a couple of friends. All sounds good until we discovered three bags of DS toys (none of which were broken, and included 2 week old birthday presents) in the bin. We then found further toys and other stuff e.g. the blade from my food processor, instruction manuals to the oven, washing machine etc scattered throughout the bin (this required several searches through the bin which was full of maggots - really grim job!). We also had search through the house to find our paperwork, toys etc. At the end of which we had retrieved approx £200 worth of stuff in the bin (some of it was bits from toys etc but that would be the replacement cost) but a further £100 of missing items including the remote to DS birthday present, and his favourite jigsaw.

This is where I was a bit unreasonable as I emailed my friend, mainly so I could set out exactly what was missing, how much it cost and that I expected it to be paid for without getting all upset and emotional and the message being lost. I just emailed my friend who had the key as she organised it but left to discuss with the others (although I suspect and she says she didn't, personally throw anything away, the other two clearly did). She and one of the others has gone completely mad denying throwing anything out, that we obviously just haven't found it yet (we have already been through the whole house and it's definitely not here), telling me they just wanted to make room for the kids to play (we have baby twins and a toddler) and that the toys they had abandoned to the elements in the garden clearly weren't being played with (this is nonsense). Yes our house is rather untidy, not easy keeping on top of it with 3 young children, but there is still room to play and ultimately it is our house, we didn't ask them to do it, and I don't see why I should have to justify our lifestyle or housekeeping habits to anyone else as it's none of their business. I've been left feeling judged and betrayed by my friend but she is acting like I should be grateful (for losing £100 of our belongings!) and that she is the injured party. She was coming with me to a baby activity which requires 1:1 with the twins but has now pulled out so that will be £200 wasted unless I can swap it to the weekend, and leaves a rather empty week as I only have 2 other activities (I am on maternity leave) and don't know of any other activities where I can go with 2 babies. It feels like she's punishing the twins for this, and all we asked her to do was look after our cats. I wish we had never asked her.

Anyway if you have got to the end accepting that I should have spoken to her rather than emailed am I being unreasonable to be upset by this and be asking her to pay or should I just suck up the losses and apologise as she seems to think I should? Would be grateful for other views on this.

Just to add and so as not to drip feed, she has helped a lot with babysitting particularly since the twins arrived which obviously would have cost us if we had to pay someone (she is now chucking that back in my face too but does that really make it OK for us to have lost all our things?)

OP posts:
magpiegin · 22/09/2014 18:00

YANBU! They massively crossed the line. I would push to get your money, they threw away your stuff, massively not on!!

RhiWrites · 22/09/2014 18:07

Sound like the friends all watch Hoarders and got carried away.

I think it's a massive overstepping of boundaries. I doubt the friendship can recover. Whatever her intentions she really crossed a line and abused your trust.

Whereisegg · 22/09/2014 18:28

I think you've underreacted tbh, I am bloody furious for you and I have no idea who you are!

And as for maggots in the food bin after 2 weeks outside in the sun being a sign that your house is a state, then sign me and my (very clean/tidy) house up Hmm

LadySybilLikesCake · 22/09/2014 18:35

Goodness! Shock I used to pet sit for an old neighbour. I'd put her post on the stairs, feed her cat, check the litter tray and that's it. There's no way I'd rifle through someone's things and take it upon myself to throw their things away, I'd be absolutely furious!

I hope you're OK Thanks Have you made a list of what items are missing?

HouseAtreides · 22/09/2014 18:37

We get maggots in our wheelie bin. It's the BIN. It has occasional food waste in it. Nothing to do with the interior of the house.

LadySybilLikesCake · 22/09/2014 18:39

I had them too. Pissing thing gets washed every month and the food waste is double bagged. Sounds like bollocks to me.

jammiecat · 22/09/2014 18:39

Thanks everyone, reassuring to know I'm not totally unreasonable. I have apologised to her for addressing this by email as I do think that was a mistake but beyond that I'm just going to take a back step from the friendship and see what happens. If that means the friendship fizzles well then so be it. A judgemental friend is not a true friend after all. For those wondering we really don't live in a complete shit tip, and much of it is the consequences of a toddler spreading toys far and wide and running out of time pre-holiday. The piles of paper on our coffee table did need sorting but by me. They haven't really done us any favours at all really. I can't find anything in the kitchen as they've moved things around and the toddler has had everything out again, at least before I chuck it all in the boxes again this evening. Anyway, it's been really good to get this off my chest and has made me feel a lot better knowing my reaction is not totally unreasonable - I was beginning to doubt myself! As for the money I don't think I really care anymore, and certainly won't be chasing it. The loss of the friendship (possibly 3 in fact) makes me sad but I don't have a problem paying for babysitters if we need to, as we don't get out that much anyway. Thanks for all the perspectives.

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sallysimpson · 22/09/2014 18:45

YANBU! Shocked!Shock I would go spare!!

Jill2015 · 22/09/2014 18:45

I would be horrified, and very upset, in your situation. There is no excuse for what she, and the others did. Tbh, I would consider the friendship over. She was asked to feed the cats, not go through your house, and arbitrarily decide that things could be thrown out.

Petrasmumma · 22/09/2014 18:48

YANBU. This is technically theft. Your friend had no right to go through your possessions, much less to discard them. I'd see this as a lucky escape, shit though it is.

Petrasmumma · 22/09/2014 18:52

And yes, I'd ask them to put you straight financially with a threat of calling the Police.

elvenbread · 22/09/2014 18:56

How mingin is your house for someone to feel they have to clean it?

ooerrmissus · 22/09/2014 19:09

OP even if your house was the worst shithole on shithole street they have no right to interfere. Dump them all and good riddance.

LadySybilLikesCake · 22/09/2014 19:10

Ds's granny tried to do that to my kitchen, elvenbread. My kitchen wasn't dirty, there's usually veg and jars (4) which need washing out for recycling on the sides as it was tiny. It's not appreciated at all, it's someone saying you're a filthy disgrace and I can do better than you (or what's what it feels like).

Pico2 · 22/09/2014 19:15

Honestly your house can't be that bad if you were able to write a list of what is missing. I'd never be able to do that.

Moreisnnogedag · 22/09/2014 19:24

Bloody hell. Too right you should get your money back! The sheer unbeaten cheek of it all - who the hell did they think they were?! I'm furious on your behalf. Even if it was filthy they should have sat down with you and explained their concerns not taken it upon themselves to throw things away. Surely sorting into piles would be the very most even the most brazen person would do??

pluCaChange · 22/09/2014 19:39

Extreme arrogance on their part!

DoJo · 22/09/2014 21:02

I'm gobsmacked! I also don't really believe that they 'threw away' brand new toys and items that were clearly pieces of kitchen equipment. I'm afraid I would be suspicious that they had taken the things themselves, then thrown away more to make it look like that was what had happened to all of them. It sounds like the kind of plan a teenager would come up with, but I am only even entertaining this idea because I simply cannot fathom anyone seriously thinking that a friend would be pleased that they had taken it upon themselves to throw away toys and kitchen equipment.

Nomama · 22/09/2014 21:15

Don't apologise to her in any way shape or form. She has got to be kidding (or extremely embarrassed)

She has invited a couple of mates round to invade your privacy, ransack your house and chuck out stuff because they felt like it.

Had you not given her a key you would have phoned the police and reported a burglary!

Tell her extremely firmly that she has overstepped herself big time. It doesn't matter who threw what, she let them into your house, she is responsible for whatever happened as they would not have entered without her actions.

Tell her she has 24 hours to find/retrieve/replace/pay for anything and everything that is missing or broken and to get to your house to see the damage done for herself before she starts taking the piss and asking you to apologise - or you WILL call the police.

hamptoncourt · 22/09/2014 21:23

I am another one who would call the police over this.

I think you are under reacting.

Momagain1 · 22/09/2014 22:12

No matter how much of a tip it was, or wasnt, the friend was completely out of bounds to do more that take out any trash generated by the pets. There is absolutely no justification for inviting others in to assist in doing this thing that she shouldnt have been doing. And putting anything at all in the bin is outrageous! And do I understand there are things still kissing? That's theft.

It is troublesome that she has messed up your activity with the twins, but you are well shot of this friend. I would consult a lawyer about the missing items and and damaged property.

Momagain1 · 22/09/2014 22:15

I think it is excellent that you addressed it by email. Was her response of inviting others in also by email? That's evidence.

deste · 22/09/2014 22:21

We declutter and organise houses for a living. There is no way on this earth that we would do it without the client being there. The only way we are allowed to organise paperwork is to be members of ICO which is basically Data Protection. Your friend has definitely overstepped the mark.

LiverpoolLou · 22/09/2014 22:30

OMG are they putting something in the cat food? My catsitter did pretty much the same thing when we went away in June. Except she kept texting me 'to keep me informed'. I thought I was going to have a heart attack I was so stressed about what I'd come back to. At one point she sent me a picture of the entire contents of the pantry spread across the kitchen floor to show me what a good job she was doing of ordering it all for me. I have major OCD traits, can you imagine what my anxiety levels were like?

KatieKaye · 22/09/2014 22:47

Unbelievably rude and way over the mark.
You trusted her and she abused your trust. She not only went raking through your personal belongings, she then decided to throw some of them out. Including a child's toys??? and not only that, she invited a couple of chums around to help. going through your things, in your house, while you were away?
(and breathe)

She has overstepped so many boundaries. I'd probably not want anything more to do with her and spare myself any more hassle. In the long run, this might work out for the best as you know how strange she is.