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Woman who is blind in the Quiet Coach - was I unreasonable? [Title edited by MN at request of OP]

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TheOpaqueAndJelliedTruth · 17/09/2014 15:05

I was going to post this on the thread about small, unreasonable irritations, but I don't actually know if I was being unreasonable. I was in the quiet coach on a long-distance train, trying to sleep. They'd just done the 'and coach B is the quiet coach, please do not use mobile phones etc.' bit. I know sometimes they book you into a quiet coach automatically, but I'm pretty certain they don't on this train. FWIW.

A woman was using a phone that played messages to her, quite loudly. After a few minutes when it was clear she wasn't planning to stop anytime soon, I got up and said excuse me, this is the quiet coach, would you mind not using your phone? She totally ignored me, so I repeated myself, and I realized at this point that she was blind (hence, obviously, needing her phone to play her messages, which I hadn't cottoned on to).

The bloke sitting next to me said, as I sat down, that she was probably using her phone because she was blind - I got the impression he meant I'd been unfair to ask her to stop.

What do you reckon? On the one hand, obviously she has a disability. On the other hand, it's still rude to be disturbing a whole coach of people, many of whom were clearly trying to sleep. And I've no clue why she completely ignored me, as obviously she could hear.

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JumpRope · 17/09/2014 20:20

Yabu.

MrsDeVere · 17/09/2014 20:36

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DancingDinosaur · 17/09/2014 21:21

You wouldn't understand my db's messages scrambled. The speech is set so fast, similar to fast reading speed I guess, that its just a jumble of words. It is rare that I can pick out a single word of it. Its like a recording really speeded up until its unrecognizable to the untrained ear.

UptheChimney · 17/09/2014 22:30

No of course you weren't being unreasonable. The DDA requires that "reasonable accommodation" is made for varying abilities. But using a loud noisy phone in the Quiet Coach is not a necessary let alone reasonable accommodation. Using a phone or any audio speakery type thing without headphones is not something that is necessary for a person with visual impairment to use to be able to travel on a train.

But I wonder how long we'll have these havens of peace on long distance trains. The thieving robber barons of a train co., CrossCountry, have got rid of their Quiet Coaches, because, they say, people weren't observing the Quiet, and they were getting too many difficulties & arguments. Instead, they're asking everyone to be considerate.

Yes, that'll work, because they've been so considerate already

So they've let the yobs win.

But you were clearly not unreasonable. I can't believe the woman kept on with such a annoying thing. Blind or not, she was unreasonable & inconsiderate.

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