To report friend to FB for photo of her blacked up?

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I'm really shocked - cousin of mine has pic of herself on Facebook blacked up. She is white. The picture is of her at a fancy dress party - she has covered her face in dark brown stage make up and is wearing an "Afro" wig and Rastafarian style striped hat.

Her husband is also blacked up.

Buffy, why don't you hop over to the Rotheram thread and voice your fury at what has been happening there, instead of venting your feminist spleen at this trifling stuff. Young white working-class girls are being gang raped largely by muslim men. I haven't seen your contribution in any of the discourse surrounding that horror.

Young white girls are by and large being abused by white men. But don't let your bigotry get in the way of that fact. Jimmy saville probably abused more women than were abused in Rotherham himself. Please feel free to pop to FWR an see how very frequently Rotherham was discussed and how PC hand wringing is just an excuse to allow innocent women to be abused.

Willing to turn it in to a standing ovation for buffy, this thread, yikes

lol.

you know the world is full of problems, let's all take one each and see how we get on, hmm?

As far as I am concerned cases like the Rotheram horrors will continue whilst some folk perpetuate the horse shit dogma that only penises and class are to blame.

Were there many people with out penises involved?

Oh and thank god white men wearing crucifixes never abuse children. I was a bit worried rapinng priests had reached epidemic levels. Guess it is just muslims

There is no sexual discrimination anymore. No pay gap. Apparently. Let's bring back the Black & White Minstrel Show while we're at it, because blackface is fine It's all fine.

Dealing with your second point, yes let's use ridiculous hyperbole to make a point given I don't think any one said that.

On your first point , I am referring to the empirical evidence of working in law in the private sector since 1984. I have seen no discrimination against women. There will undoubtedly be women who don't push as hard as others due to family etc and who aren't offered (or want partnership) but that is not discrimination against women.

Of the 2 firms I know most about the numbers at partner level are pretty much equal.

Not in Rotheram they're not. Nor in most Northern towns where the victims are being drugged, pimped and trafficked on a grand scale. Open your eyes. I shudder to think how far your stupidity reaches

1 out of 4 women is sexually assaulted, that's usually by a familly member or partner. So in the cases of young white women, most likely to be another white male. and yes that number would be far higher than 1400 even in rotherham.

Was that easy enough for you to comprehend?

I don't understand why you are putting the fact that they are male above all others though. It's as if you are suggesting that because they are male they are committing these crimes rather than it being a consequence of their e.g. race, religion or culture. They may have been raised to believe that they are superior as men as a result of race/religion/culture. They are not born thinking that. I don't think it is right to simply attribute it to their sex.

It is their culture mrswhiskers only to say that is certainnly not only the cultre of young pakistani men.

It is a world wide culture that excuse rape and abuse of women by men

The same white police officers who would be worried about looking racist did not give a fuck about looking like they might hate women by ignoring their offences. .

The same culture that saw Asian gangs of men seeing women as things to have and not as human

So you're blaming an entire sex for the crimes of a few? What about the vast majority of men who do not hate women or rape women or abuse women? Just lump them all in together because they happen to share a chromosome?

No lump em all together for being Pakistani that makes more sense.

If you do some research on sexual and physical assault of women by men you will see that it's not the "crimes of a few" it's the crimes of a hell of a lot of men and the willful ignoring of the rest that allows it to continue.

Also women are a part of culture. Women accepting and calling male violence everythign but what it is. BLaming it on race or anything else... is minimizing it. Women are also a part of the problem. I'm blaming women too.

*blaming women for the culture that allows male violence. Not blaming women for male violence

I have seen no discrimination against women

So the reams of research showing that women are regularly discriminated against in the workplace, means nothing to you - because - er, it hasn't happened to you. Ok then. The arguments you use to try and justify the pay gap are the very same as the men's rights activists use, to keep women in their place, in case you're unaware of that. Try reading the Equality Illusion.

As for the Black & White Minstrel show - well, I was kind of being sarcastic. Thought that would be obvious. But I fail to see a difference between people blacking up for that TV show, and blacking up for a fancy dress party and posting the pics on FB.

It is offensive, has long been regarded as so, (the BBC stopped doing it in the 70's ffs) and so people shouldn't do it. These things matter.

Finally, the treatment of Buffy on this thread is a disgrace. I come across Buffy's posts a lot on FWR - she is an eloquent and intelligent poster. To try and use straw man arguments about the Rotherham case against her is pretty lame.

Young white girls are by and large being abused by white men. But don't let your bigotry get in the way of that fact

Before dragging in the usual, tired claims of bigotry, it might be worth remembering that the Office of the Childrens Commissioner has stated that data in this area is incomplete at best; as I posted elsewhere, details have apparently been recorded wrongly, with bias or not at all

This is perhaps another reason why many of us regard race as an issue in abuse but certainly not the only one. Unfortunately, there are those for whom this will never be enough; the only acceptable attitude is that race has absolutely nothing to do with it, and any other view is racist/bigoted/pick any insult you like

Liike so much else, charges of "silencing techniques" can also work both ways; it's interesting to see that some who accuse others of this are often the very first to resort to it when it suits ...

Buffy, but why should you ignore race when it does factor into why the perpetrators have that opinion of their victims? It is not as if its encoded into their Y chromosome to treat women like that.

WhatWitch - I am certainly not lumping all Pakistanis together! I was commenting on Buffy's flow chart which places the fact that they are men above anything else. I don't agree with that arrangement.

If you'd care to re-read my recent posts, you will see that this is a misrepresentation of what I said

Buffy, where did I say that my post was directed specifically at you? It was more a general observation about the attitudes these threads tend to bring out - if I thought about individual posters at all, it tended towards the more extreme screamers and spitters who are so conspicuous by their absence on any of the "Rotherham threads"

Buffy, I think it is horrific to tarnish an entire sex with the same brush, yes. I am not tarnishing an entire race or culture or religion simply because some of them have committed crimes but I am prepared to recognise that their culture/religion has influenced their opinions and has formed their attitude to women. I do not think that their sex alone would form that attitude to women which is why I do not think that sex should be at the top of your flow chart. IMO it would make more sense to put culture/religion at the top of your flowchart and then have sex underneath because, just as men are raised to believe that they are superior, women can be raised to think they are inferior.