To report friend to FB for photo of her blacked up?

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I'm really shocked - cousin of mine has pic of herself on Facebook blacked up. She is white. The picture is of her at a fancy dress party - she has covered her face in dark brown stage make up and is wearing an "Afro" wig and Rastafarian style striped hat.

Her husband is also blacked up.

www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/29/-sp-untold-story-culture-of-shame-ruzwana-bashir

Worth a read for anyone who doesn't think that the abuse in Rotherham was linked with a specific culture.

I am too weird for your liking? Wow....apologies that I don't fit into your idea of what a woman should be!

Pfft...what an a@/£hole!

Buffy yes...the issue of male entitlement is the crux.

Itsbetterthan genuine question do you consider the Lady Boys of Bangkok to be transvestites or a drag act?

I don't care one way or another as I don't feel remotely threatened or oppressed by drag acts or transvestite cabaret performers but the Ladyboys present a parodic ,unachievable way of dressing as a woman. As far as I'm aware however it's not just a stage act.

Worth a read for anyone who doesn't think that the abuse in Rotherham was linked with a specific culture.

I had read it. What I took from it was the complicity of her family and community to close ranks, stick their heads in the sand and blame the victims.

Buffy whom are you calling not very bright?

Buffy, yes I absolutely see what you're saying.

I try to be scrupulously equal; I will not be offended by white people dressing as black and I would not expect my DH to be anything other than amused by my dressing as the blonde policeman from the Harry Enfield show. He is Dutch but he's not gay and not in law enforcement. He doesn't get offended when I speak with a Dutch accent, which I also find hugely funny.

I am lucky enough to come from a sophisticated background and was educated in many countries.

Consequently, I feel that creed and colour are irrelevant; I will love your company and spend time laughing or arguing about books with you. Or I might find you dull, or ignorant or bossy of intolerant and will always be putting on my coat when you show up.

You can be any colour in the world. It is genuinely irrelevant.

I know that racism exists, of course it does, but I try every day to behave in a way I would like to be treated myself. For myself. Not my colour or what you think might be my cultural baggage and references. Start with the words and actions and jokes and make no assumptions.

I hope in turn that I've made sense; it's late and I am distracted by endless lists of missing sports kit.

It's an interesting debate and I may wander to the feminist boards one day soon and broaden my thinking.

Goodnight all.

Phaedral looking at the lady boys of bangcock are a stage show made up of people from Thailand known as Kathoey. It looks like this is a widely accepted 'third sex' whereas transsexualism isn't accepted. I imagine a lot of the lgbt community become part of this group as it is more accepted. So no I don't find that offensive.
Tbf as drag queening is mainly done by the gay community here I do see it as a product of homophobia more than a completely misogynistic act. In a non sexist, non homophobic society I don't think people would do this.

Itsbetterthan I'm sorry but you've lost me with that last 2 sentences- are you saying you object to gay men in drag?

Tbh I'm finding your distinctions here verging into the how many angels can dance on a pin field. To be blunt - both are blokes in a dress ( as I think Eddie Izzard said )Neither bother, offend or impact on me.

Pretty soon we're not gonna be able to have black or white crayons. This is madness.

It's a fancy dress party! She is dressed up. Not like she went shopping dressed like it, there is a context as to why she would be dressed like it.

Maybe you need to log off Facebook and find something worth while, that is actually racist to be complaining about.

Montegomongoose - I certainly did not mean to be patronising. However, blacking up IS generally considered offensive.

I do see drag and transvestism as separate and so do most transvestites.
What I meant to say is I have mixed feelings on drag as it is primarily done by gay men and although it is sexist I think they do it because of homophobia. Because gay men are stereotyped as effeminate so it's a huge exaggeration of that. I think if there were no homophobia then gay men wouldn't do drag. I'm not offended as in upset if I see someone in drag but I do find it sad that the idea of simply being a woman is a hilarious joke.

Women who declare the Rotheram members as being 'just another male with a penis' are the idiots around here. Blinded by your useless feminist ideologies - and that is all you are in 2014..ideologues.

Why not take it onto another thread pistols about the Rotherham abuse? I assume you don't feel you are winning any arguments here hence the need to try and derail the thread.

FreeSpirit some of us consider it racist. That's the point just in case you hadn't quite grasped it.
Does no one defending this realise that this would be unacceptable in many places of work where your own contributions to social media are expected to be in line with policy?

Haven't RTWT but I know OP didn't report the cousin she 'adores' but massaged her so all's well that ends well.

I do find the quasi Maoism of even contemplating reporting an adored cousin to a faceless authority far more disturbing than any kind of dress-up, though! Why on earth would anyone do that?

Montegomongoose's posts are a sane joy, as always.

Messaged not massaged! Filthy autocorrect :)

I think this is a strange thread and sort of unequal. You have two groups here. Some clicked on a random thread to see what it was about. They have no interest really in "black face" or blackening up, probably never done it, probably never will, probably haven't even seen anyone doing it - at a quick glance it all looks perhaps harmless as it's just not on their radar. Then you have a group that is the opposite - has debated, talked about this, read up on the history, have numerous links etc - who probably sit down and discuss and debated these issues with friends.

A few posters have posted posts that explain why some black folk find this offensive and upsetting. I'd imagine if most folk realised that they might be offending or upsetting a group then they probably would agree it's just wise not to go there - even if they mean no harm or offence.

Folk have argued but. I think if the cry of you are all an uneducated bunch of racists hadn't went out so early on by those who love to debate this stuff to within an inch of their lives - then then folk might not have got so defensive it might never have reached 16 or so pages.

A few posters have been strange and off the wall.

I think the point is that there are some feminists who will hand-wring over absolutely anything that involves 'minority issues' - except when it really matters, like the Rotheram abuse case.

It was a mystery to me why the ethnicity of the men in the Rotherham case was given so much prominence.

They were a group of men that abused girls terribly. Why did we need to know their ethnic background or religion at all?