to think this kid is just fat?

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Somebody on my Facebook (sorry!) Is currently moaning about the size of kids uniforms.
Her gripe is that for her 11 year old daughter she has had to buy ladies size 18 blouses and skirts. She is putting this down to shops having an unrealistic idea of the size of modern children or some such nonsense. She has a lot of people agreeing with her, full on hunnage included.
Having never met her daughter, I had no idea if she was right or not but found a pic of her on her profile and she is extremely overweight as are both her parents. It's them that have an unrealistic idea of a healthy sized child isn't it, and not m&s?

However, she may well have an illness causing her to be that size and her mother may just be having a rant about how crap it is to get clothes for her sick kid
a not so hidden disability do you mean?

Yes adsy - like Prader-Willi syndrome

Have just googled Plus Size school uniforms and there are lots of options there, including a scaremongering article from the DM, which I refuse to click on. Maybe you could help your random FB acquaintance friend with some practical information.

Bhs is good Although the trousers do come up too big on my dd. She fits normal sized tops but is 90th centile I believe so have been extra active this summer.

Only on MN

Given that Prader Willi Syndrome affects between 1 in 10,000 and 1 in 25,000 births a year (so between 30 and 80 children a year in the UK born with it), it is extremely unlikely.

Why is it so frowned upon to say that this kids is probably fat as a result of being fed crap since day 1 by useless parents who dont care that they are putting her life at risk? Would you judge if the child was underfed? Of course you would. Chances are that this child is malnourished because you dont get fat on veg and salad, but because she is fat you dont think about that.

Its the whole "I dont judge anyone" bollocks that has led to neglect being explained away with excuses.

Maybe its time we started judging more, not less, for the sake of the poor kids who are being let down by their hopeless parents.

Sizes are definitely smaller than they were 30 years ago. BUT NOT THAT MUCH SMALLER.
I struggle to believe an 11 year old girl needs Size 18 shirts/blouses. That's wrong. Either she is gigantic and has huge food/medical problems (or perhaps big boobs?) - or the mother is exaggerating perhaps? I am sure someone would have said something before - surely. If it's medical problems the mother should not be posting on FB. I am not saying Size 18 is huge for an adult, it's not far off average (I think a size 16?), but for an 11 year old it's not quite right, surely?

Unfortunately YANBU and it's an increasing problem with children in the UK. It doesn't take much googling to find statistics.

I also have a friend who has had to buy clothes several sizes up for her young DD. Not a lot that I can do about it though.

I think it is sad, although also a bit judgy!
My DD is 12 and certainly considered big for her age. She is an adult size 10!! So if that's big, what on earth is an 18?
The mum certainly shouldn't be encouraged to think that's ok

I have never ever met a fat person who didn't know they were fat. This peculiarly spiteful myth peddled by the DM that fat people are all in denial about their weight and think they are a 'normal' size is utter bullshit.

I don't disagree with the OP that it's not normal and that the child is probably being neglected. I just don't see how she is helping but being sensationalist on MN.

My eldest dd was very overweight through school, my other 3 children are slim. Dd has various health issues which added to the problem and she also struggles with overeating. Bhs was very good for school clothes!

I know a family, all overweight (desperately so) all with lds
It's quite obvious TO ME they have prada willi, to other people no, I don't think they do get it

Parents are often in denial about whether their children are overweight though.

I was a fat child, I weighed more at age 11 than I do now in my 30's.

I was an adult size 10 at age 11 but obviously I was shorter than I am now.

Size 18 at age 11 is fat. There are no excuses and yes I do judge parents who allow their child to be so overweight.
I'm sure there will now be lots of posters making excuse why some children are so horrendously overweight. For the majority there are no excuses. Being a fat child was a horrible experience and it's simply unacceptable.

I'm 5"6 and size 16 and 35. I know that my weight is unhealthy/obese. When I was 12 I weighed 5-6 stone. When I was 17 I weighed 7 stone and size 8 (same height)

An 11yr old should not be that big at that age. No matter how tall she is.

We're alway moaning about the obesity issue and then someone posts about an OBESE child you attack the OP
I don't get it. I've seen so many threads referring to this as a form of child abuse - now some of you are saying it's an "illness" and mentioning diagnoses on very rare illnesses.

Simple fact: 11yr old wearing size 18 is not good. Not healthy and yet another child with parents 'blaming' everyone else but themselves for their daughters size .

DADDY you are NBU the child is fat.
(I'm wondering if the mere mention of FB and seeking pictures is what started the [bizarre] flaming you received)

Stop attacking OP and see the point that a size 18 preteen is bloody unhealthy mentally and physically

I am not saying the PW doesnt exist btw, merely pointing out that for every person that has it there are 24,999 that dont. And there are more than 1 in 24,999 people who are overweight.

I really doubt that there is a size 18 11 year-old out there who doesn't have significant medical issues.

OP is either making it up, or is unspeakably nasty. Or both.

I also need to lose about three stone and I buy size 14 or 16 tops, so yes, if this is all true then a size 18 is very very large indeed for someone of 11 years old. I am surprised she is not having some intervention from HCPs to be honest. In fact I am sure she must be. But I agree with what Mardy just said.

But congratulations on the phrase 'full on hunnage.'

news.sky.com/story/1276875/parents-arrested-over-obese-11-year-old-son

And Georgia Davis, the poor girl who lost loads of weight only to be fed up again by her mother and had to be cut free of her house as she was too big to walk out.

Owlady. Your overweight family with lds are very unlikely to have PWS simply because it's not genetically transferable and is a random genetic defect. To have two adults and a child with it is beyond statistical possibility. Unfortunately people with lds are more likely to not be educated enough to make the right food choices.

Fat-shaming pure and simple. Bad form.

Pointless thread and lots of pointless comments. Yes, of course the child is overweight if she is a size 18 at age 11 .

But post about it on Mn? Just WHY? Are you going to say anything to your friend, op, or just bitch about her behind her back?

abbie hardly fat shaming. An 11 year old wearing size 18?! Do you think this is normal/acceptable? She's a child.

I'm 'fat' but this isn't "fat shaming" at all. The childs weight is a product of her parents diet. Do you not think for one minute this little girl knows she's larger than her friends?
Her parents need to help her. Words like "fat shaming" do not help the issue. She's obese and that's all there is to it.

Kids sizing is pretty crap though.

I've just had to buy my 9 year old age 11-12 skirts because the age 9 barely passed her arse.

I now get to sit here and take the fuckers in.

I was a fat child and was an adult size 8 at age 11. Size 18 is shocking. Unless there's a medical condition going on, the parents should be ashamed.