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Children weeing in gardens

124 replies

GirlWithTheLionHeart · 09/08/2014 15:22

Not sure how I feel about it, so interested to see what you all think.

Friend came over yesterday with her ds (3yo), we were playing in the garden and he said he needed to go to the toilet. Friend says oh go to the back [of the garden] and wee there.

This happened twice. My toilet is actually closer than the back of the garden, which is quite long.

A couple of friends I've told were Shock

Wsbu?

OP posts:
HalfEatenPizza · 09/08/2014 17:09

My point WAS against the outraged cries of disgust, as Icimoi put it. And I totally agree with her post.

Furthermore also agree with Jollyphonics that sometimes it makes perfect sense to let a SMALL child pee on the grass.

It is shocking how discriminated children are nowadays against animals. Shocking! People are not even disgusted by cat piss INSIDE their houses but are disgusted by a little child piss Hypocritical and dirty! Children are children precisely because they are yet not fully developed humans and in my opinion they are entitled to lots more freedom, mistakes etc than adults (obviously!). And they are not stinky like animals.

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/08/2014 17:12

Why does freedom have to involve pissing in a mates garden though?

It means we understand of they wet themselves, or get tired and stroppy. And we understand they can't hold it like an adult can.

It doesn't mean we let them piss everywhere outside the home een if a toilet is just because they are a child.

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/08/2014 17:13

Even if a toilet is available

Aeroflotgirl · 09/08/2014 17:14

It's bad manners to just do it in somebodies garden without asking. You want to teach your child good toilet habits. Yes in an emergency you can't help it, when dd was toilet training there was a bit of al fresco weeing when we were out and not near a toilet. I would not encourage it, she started to do it in our garden for fun, I had to put a stop to it. It would not be right for her to wee in the playground, or shopping centre. That we have to find a toilet first if not a bush.

Bodicea · 09/08/2014 17:15

My friends little boy wee's in my garden if we are out there. I never thought anything of it. But rather that than sprinkling. All over my loo seat. He's a little boy for goodness sake surely there are more important things to be worrying about.

Ilovexmastime · 09/08/2014 17:17

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

HalfEatenPizza · 09/08/2014 17:18

Children are not adults!!! They are entitled to a lot more than bloody animals in my book! And being allowed to pee twice on the grass was only wrong because they didn't ask permission from the host. But it is definitely not disgusting. Or at least not mote disgusting than any other living creature peeing.

Please the person who has NEVER used nature ass toilet - stand up!

Oh, by the way - enjoy your summer holiday this year - swimming in the sea in a resort will almost definitely mean you are swimming in lots and lots of human shit and piss coming from the 'civilised' drain pipes. Pretty civilised, no? Enjoy. Hahahahaaaaa

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 09/08/2014 17:21

I cannot believe some people on here thinking it is acceptable for a child to urinate in the garden.

A friend's son did it once in my garden (aged around 3). Well - I can tell you it was the first and last time he ever did it. (He didn't even have to run up any stairs to get to the toilet).

Aside from being quite disgusting and socially unacceptable, what sort of manners does the parent have, to allow this to happen, and then pass those bad manners on to their children?

In an emergency, we've all allowed our children to toilet behind a shrub, in a field or at the roadside, (clearing up afterwards if necessary!!) but not in someone's garden, for crying out loud.

And to the person above (Pizza?) equating this nasty habit to that of an animal - WTAF? Totally different! I've never known a dog or a fox to come into the house and use the toilet. That would make newspaper headlines, wouldn't it??

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/08/2014 17:21

You do know it's treated first right?

I get you your the one who let their kid puss in a potty in a cafe by the table aren't you?

What with kids needing freedom to piss anywhere and everywhere...

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 09/08/2014 17:24

People are not even disgusted by cat piss INSIDE their houses but are disgusted by a little child piss

Pizza - are you truly expressing real opinions, or are you on a wind-up? Cats urinate in a litter tray, which is their equivalent of a toilet.

HalfEatenPizza · 09/08/2014 17:39

Ok fair enough. Stick to your disgusting stinky animals and stay away from my child. Cat litter = toilet. Really. And you comlplain that child piss is disgusting.... OK.

No, no wind up. Just a child defender. Pissing on grass in garden does not exclude manners. Mother was lacking manners for not asking hostess first but CHILD was NOT disgusting!

Disgusting are you, people, who think of children pee as disgusting! Children are endearing even when they pee and shit. Children need love not contempt.

Go and sleep with your animals, all sad twisted people who think children are disgusting. Hypocrites of the highest order.

Gileswithachainsaw · 09/08/2014 17:44

Good grief, I'd send that pizza back, something on it has clearly sent you bananas.

Piss and shit is discusting. We just put up with it because we love our pets and children. Being a child doesn't mean the contents of your bladder are any more desirable than anyone or anything else's. Once they are potty trained they use a toilet if one is available. End of.

Glad I don't visit your piss and shit riddled garden because I taught my kids some manners and they wouldn't be adding to it.

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 09/08/2014 17:44

I love children, but they are not all endearing at all times and need to learn appropriate behaviour. A bit like some adults, sometimes, quite clearly Confused

Booboostoo · 09/08/2014 17:45

Some of you would love living in France where adults habitually pee outdoors (by the roadside most often, but also in the middle of cities) and sometimes even shit outdoors when they have to.

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 09/08/2014 17:48

Maybe if they have to (those last two words being quite crucial to the argument, I feel, Booboo). However, in Britain, I believe it is not legal to do so in a public place, therefore, this would be a good lesson for children to learn early on.

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 09/08/2014 17:52

(And if a French person went to the toilet in my garden when there is a bathroom very close by, they would be on the next Ferry home)!!

Aeroflotgirl · 09/08/2014 17:54

By the time a child is of school age it is not acceptable to just wee anywhere, unless an emergency of course. Saw a boy coming out of school on his own (9/10) whipped it out and weed on the path, I was like Shock, another I was collecting my dd from school, a boy yr2 larking about with friends, weed in the playground, thinking it was funny and making a show of it. hT marched out and told him off. This continues to adulthood, men thinking the whole community is one big toilet. Pissing outside clubs and pubs instead of using their facilities. Better teach them acceptable behaviour when toilet training.

Aeroflotgirl · 09/08/2014 17:57

I agree Evans it's not, it's a public order offence, you cannot wee anywhere you will be fined. In an emergency you have to hide if you don't want to get caught.

Pregnantberry · 09/08/2014 17:58

I wouldn't care about the wee (it's sterile and cats and other animals probably do it all the time in the garden), so I'd shrug it off.

It's not something I would let my own DS do though because I believe that it's bad manners for a capable person to wee on someone else's property (apart from in a toilet, obviously, or in an emergency) without asking.

ObfusKate · 09/08/2014 17:59

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Booboostoo · 09/08/2014 18:00

I see about one person a month pooping by the side of the road so maybe the French suffer a lot from diarrhoea? Grin

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 09/08/2014 18:03

HalfEaten very passionate posts there, you sound cross!

TrucksAndDinosaurs · 09/08/2014 18:11

The child is 3, ffs.

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 09/08/2014 18:17

The child is 3, ffs.

And?
The Mother told the child to wee in the garden! FFS

AdoraBell · 09/08/2014 18:25

Small child accidentally peeing = not an issue

Actually telling a child to pee in the garden, even at home IMO, = Confused WTF, why would you?

I'm not a prude and not anti bodily functions, just feel there is no need to deliberately avoid using a toilet.