To think if you pay for a surrogate baby that you decide you don't want you should pay for the op he needs.

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An Australian couple have paid a Thai woman to be a surrogate, she had twins but one has Down Syndrome so they left him behind and took his sister home.

He has a hole in the heart (news reporting that it is in addition to DS, actually it is more likely part of the DS) and his mum can't afford his op.

Surely the least you can do is pay for his bloomin' op?

Obviously there should have been an agreement with who pays for what under what circumstances but in reality is a poor person in a developing country going to think about that?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-28617912

www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-01/mother-of-thai-baby-abandoned-by-surrogate-parents-struggles-to/5642478

Where was the bio mum in all of this? Do you think she couldn't get time off work or something? Very strange she's not mentioned.

Is it possible the biological mother is herself a mail-order bride and has had her poverty exploited as well? If the man is a paedophile he may not have been able to find a woman with true options who was willing to marry him.

micro if it was an illegal surrogacy arrangement then the couple could be at risk of having their dd removed.

Remember that couple from north wales a few years ago who bought twin girls from the US off the Internet? They were removed by ss when it all got to the papers in the UK.

Lighthousekeeping there's been very little mention of her alright. Although the last article quote her as being aware of hi past and saying he is a good man.

I get that it could be illegal plinth I'm just t

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There are so many articles about this I don't know what to believe.

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Would it not have been a risk in any case then, rather than a higher risk now due to publicity?

It's just disgusting! How can you walk away from your child like that. I find it so sad that so many people would abort a baby with downs because 'they can't cope'.

What happens if your child gets hit by a car aged 5 and becomes wheelchair bound? Or in the case of my DS is diagnosed with ASD and other severe mental issues? Do you just abandon them because 'you can't cope'? No you manage, because you have to. There are so many things we can't test for or predict but because a test for downs exist it somehow makes it an ok reason to abort.

This is no different, they have an obligation to that baby and should see it through.

They would only lose the baby they do have if they took her illegally.
I don't see why they wouldn't know the twin didn't exist. It says on the reports they did so no reason to think they didn't that's just your suspicion.

itsbetter, the news reports from interviews with the parents quotes them as saying that they didn't know about the twin.

Wow just caught up with the thread, very tricky situation and I really hope the latest reports are not true :(

I also heard that the couple knew nothing about the twin. They were given the female child and only learnt that about the twin when they were back home.

Who knows what to believe

Indeed ExcuseTypos it's hard to know what to believe in this anymore, so many strange and unlikely twists and turns. If only it wasn't so serious.

At least little Gammy is with the woman he knows as his mother. To him, hopefully, that is normal. I really hope the charity looking after them sees this through and gives Gammy and his family a better life. Prayers he makes it through his medical battles.

Knows as his mother pfft. She IS his mother!

It said on the news the Australian govt may intervene to give him citizenship so he can access free healthcare there. It's good to see bureaucracy being overcome for this little fella.

The cynic in me does find the timing of this story rather interesting. It was only a week or so ago that one of the television stations did rather large story on Indian surrogacy, which was quite widely discussed and debated. A week later, this story comes out. Good timing?

Maybe so Midnite, but for what purpose?
Or are these stories coming out because these are now real issues of concern I wonder

I'm not necessarily doubting the story, just the timing of it. Convenient to piggyback the current level of outrage in Australia about people using overseas surrogates in order to garner maximum attention (and perhaps donations?). After all, the child is now six months old, where was the outrage five months ago?

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Around the same time that the intended parents did ... (i.e, she isn't, but neither are they) only they are not, not yet anyway, but pretty much the majority of posters here have made them out to be, so why is that OK, but not for me to think that of the mother?

I said I was being cynical, but also hoping that wasn't what happened.

I know that I don't trust the media to reveal the whole or true story!

I don't know who is the villain here, we may never know the whole true story, yet that doesn't stop many completely vilifying the Australian couple & being in total sympathy with the mother.

I am reserving judgement.

that would be fairly straightforward to check surely with a DNA test.

All that a DNA will achieve is to find out parentage, it won't tell anyone whether the couple KNEW about the twin.

It could be, as explained below that the couple were not told of the twin, just told that one embryo had successfully implanted. But that the surrogate was told they did know, in order to keep her compliant during the pregnancy!

The woman in Thailand couldn't possibly have known that she could exploit this couple or the Australian public into giving her money by withholding one of the twins.

Why couldn't she have known?

But how on earth would the agency gain from doing that?