To think this is just a cynical and manipulative way to get round the Minimum Wage and just exploits children

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Evil double glazing company (defo evil, horrible reviews online and on here about how they don't leave for hours on end, how they won't see a woman on their own in the house as they want to sell to couples)

They have recruited a load of 16 year olds, trained them for 3 days without pay and are now dropping them off in areas to get people to make appointments for quotes.

They've been out there 9 hours, no pay.

All the adults who attended the recruitment afternoon were not 'hired' but all the 16 year olds who've never had a job were.

Can't believe this shit is even legal

It's not legal.

I have a relative who worked doing something similar aged 17. This was over 25 years ago.

National company, this shit must be.

Just found out they're not getting picked up til 6.30.

10 hours.

Name and shame

Happily,

Zenith Windows

Will avoid like the plague. Disgusting.

Illegal, immoral and shameful. I wonder if they are on twitter?

It can't be illegal to work 'commission only' can it?

I'm so incensed as I think it's deliberate. They are children and I think they were recruited because of that.

How do you know about this?

A child I know is doing this now.

They deserve a hard time. Definitely.

Zenith, I mean. Not the 16 year olds

YANBU

They made a young man on the 'Benefits Street' programme do something like this. He was so excited to have some work, got all dressed up in his suit, slogged for a week and earned nothing. Unsurprisingly he didn't see the point of applying for further work.
It's immoral. What happened to a fair days work for a fair days pay?
I hate seeing people being exploited so callously.

I did that at 21. Worked long days for a week before I discovered I wasn't being paid at all!!

Great pr, npower.

Zenith? Oh, now there's a surprise!!

Bloody Zenith. I didn't think they could stoop any lower then I read this.

We bought some windows from them a few years ago. Fab windows, lovely install team and was happy with everything. That was until the cold calls started. It was relentless and only stopped when I threatened legal action due to harassment.

Would never ever buy from them again.

Paying commission only is legal provided the staff are paid at least the national minimum wage. If the commission earned comes to less than the minimum wage the employer must make up the difference.

Do you know if they should be paid for 'training'? prh

I did this for a week- commission only. Direct marketing, would get to the office for 10am, out between 1-8 (or later) then back to the office. I wasn't getting home until gone 11pm!

Perdm. Scumbags.
The Guardian

They sell it to you as a management scheme where you get your own office and sounds amazing.

I'm considering double glazing at the moment. I'm scrubbing Zenith off the list - any other suggestions greatly appreciated!

And I bet if anyone signing on refuses to do this they get sanctioned.

And the national minimum wage for a 16 year old is only £3.72

Pay and Work Rights Helpline

Anyone can ring to report a breach of national minimum wage. It doesn't have to be the person working for them.