Why can't our neighbours go to the back of their garden to smoke?

[shadypines]

They have a large garden and could easily walk away from the house to light up so that the smoke doesn't all blow into our windows. It's horrible and in this sweltering weather it means we either boil in 'fresh' air or have some cooler smoky air. Great. Just great.

To be fair Ikea they could call the council and report an accumulation of rubbish with smells that could attract rats/mice.

They hate confrontation ( cultural trait) so I don't think they'd call the council, I checked the rules of the area we live in and storing things in this space is allowed so the junk can be there in storage.

I wonder if there is any vile smelling plants I could grow, alternatively I might play the crazy frog or some other very irritating music on repeat.

They probably don't even realise it bothers you. I am an occasional smoker who goes outside and if my neighbour told me the smell was bothering them I would apologise and move. This seems like a non-issue to me. Very few people who smoke actively want to inflict the smell on others.

I'm not a smoker, ikea, but your junk or smelly balcony would not deter me on iota. And you get to look at and smell it, too.

YABU.

HappyAgain

" I'm glad you don't visit us. I like the front of our house to look nice."

Why the personal attack? And how do you know I'm not devestatingly beautiful and make the front of my house look stunning when I stand out the front?

Besides the fact, I'm not visiting anyone, I'm standing at my own front door, on my own property, if i was visiting you and you didn't want me to smoke on your property or near your house, I wouldn't.

Ikea you are coming across as being peevish and disagreeable. Your stupid pile of junk wouldn't bother me at all. I'd just think of you as a frightful slob, while puffing contemplatively on my roll up.

I don't use our balcony very often as I don't like my family to breath in other people's smoke so I'm not annoyed by the junk. I don't care if the neighbours think we are slobs, I don't intend to have anything to do with them.

My neighbours choose to make it impossible for us to open our windows, my toddler has asthma being exposed to smoke could result in a trip to a+e or a stay in hospital, I intend to do everything I can to irritate and inconvenience them.

I can tell.

Wow, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Rotting fish and stinky nappies.

I don't see the harm in asking them could they go down the back to be honest OP. I am in the midst of a relapse and in the summer when I want a cheeky fag I go into the garage bit and not ny anyone's open windows, so maybe they just haven't thought about it.

Well it's not just them thinking you are slobs... Having crap all over your balcony means you actually are a slob, surely?

I think that, even in pathologically non confrontational Sweden, you might find that, if you cause a stench and are a noise nuisance, you might find yourself in hot water.

I get it, you don't like smoke.

How revolting. I would ask them, nicely, to do it more considerately. It's nothing to do with the health risk - for me it's just the foul smell. I really hate it.

But smokers (or the 3 I know), can be extremely blinkered.

Move your windows to the back of your garden?

I may be a slob but at least the mess isn't dangerous to anyone, they did stop smoking when I was pregnant with ds as dp asked them to but when ds was born theysstarted again. I also make sure noisy ds is in the room next to their apartment if he wakes up early.

They are legally free to smoke on their balcony, I am legally allowed to put junk in the gap between our balconies and my ds is legally allowed to play with his musical instruments which he likes to bang on the wall at 5 in the morning. It would be nice if we were considerate and minimised noise and mess/smells but as long as they are inconsiderate enough to smoke so that it comes into our home I'll do anything I can to irritate them as it makes me feel better.

I think leaving faeces and rotten food near your home will be more of a health hazard than the smell of smoke.

So basically, you are harassing your neighbours with a self important campaign of noise, disturbance, mess and hate, simply because they smoke.
Really don't think they are the problem neighbours are they Ikea?

YANBU

Cigarette smoke is disgusting. I really don't get why people think it's ok for somebody to stink out somebody else's home. Smokers are all for smokers rights, completely ignoring the rights of the non-smoker to breathe fresh air. Would it be ok to spray fly spray into your neighbours' windows in huge quantities? So why is smoke ok?

We sold our last house partly (well almost entirely) because we couldn't open the windows in the summer. Chain smoking neighbours with chain smoking relatives and unemployed chain smoking son who invited chain smoking woman to live with them. All sitting on the patio right next to my open windows. Chain smoking. Oh and a constantly barking dog as well. Nice.

Really very intrusive smell and disgraceful to affect your neighbours to the degree that they are unble to open their windows in the summer. I can't think of a single thing I have ever done to negatively impact on a neighbour's quality of life. Smokers are incredibly selfish and it amazes me that people are so quick to defend them.

I haven't left and nappies or fish yet, it is my next plan but dp isn't pleased about that idea and I appreciate it may be pregnancy rage which is inspiring me, I was lots calmer last summer despite ds being younger. I feed the birds which crap all over both balconies but that isn't intentional we just like watching the birds.

We were perfectly nice neighbours until they knowingly exposed my child to smoke. I am making the point to them that no one needs to be considerate but it's nice if people are considerate.

Given that your husband asked them not to smoke because you were pregnant (which is bonkers by the way), I think your 'point' has probably eluded them, and they just think you're egocentric, slovenly and a bit bizarre.
But carry on by all means if it makes you feel better. They won't care.

Gobbolino, as far as I know there are no studies which demonstrate a measurable health risk from being able to smell cigarette smoke drifting in from outside occasionally in summer

your playing the impact down, there are studies the air in cubic fills up with particles, there are studies on how loaded it is from a radius out from smoker.

Do smokers smoke occasionally? the smokers who were on either side of us - smoked very regularly, a couple every hour and more than one smoker at a time. Housing stock is side by side, so someone smoking outside by a building right by someones open window is pretty much smoking in your house...your getting 95% if not 100% of the smoke coming straight in...its not going anywhere else..

Really very intrusive smell and disgraceful to affect your neighbours to the degree that they are unble to open their windows in the summer. I can't think of a single thing I have ever done to negatively impact on a neighbour's quality of life. Smokers are incredibly selfish and it amazes me that people are so quick to defend them

Totally agree.....the impact on us was huge, I felt like a prisoner, even the police officer said he was OK with the heat until he entered my home. Hot because there was no air circulating....

Ikea you cultivate what smells you want!!

I really feel for you ikea....after all you can take a fag and smoke it in an open space away from other people cant you!

Much harder to take your home elsewhere.

Anyone who feels strongly contact people like ASH.

my toddler has asthma being exposed to smoke could result in a trip to a+e or a stay in hospital, I intend to do everything I can to irritate and inconvenience them

Your toddler has asthma and yet still your being given a rotten time Ikea.

People really are horrid are they not.

You sound quite unhinged. Sounds like you need to get out the house more rather than sit around thinking up petty things to annoy you neighbours.