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To want to set the record straight about the Cedar Falls Nurse In

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Mamagiraffe · 14/07/2014 13:27

I am organising the peaceful protest OUTSIDE THE GATES of Cedar Falls. The protest is not taking place because Victoria tried to take an under 16 to an age-restricted place expecting special treatment it is because the spa have cancelled her booking rather than allowing her to make alternative arrangements. Whatever has happened in the past is immaterial and I am horrified by the muck-raking and bullying instigated here last night. I, personally, do not condone the online attack on their Facebook page but that is of course up to the individual., I have also requested members of the event to remove any they may have already posted but I have no power to do so. For those who are uninformed breastfeeding at 1 is not only recommended but it aids nutrition, soothing and attachment- for Victoria's child they may or may not have required a feed during this weekend but provision needed to be in place to facilitate this and it would be unfair for the child not to ensure this is possible, this does not mean that a nursing mother must be sequestered away from living a normal adult life for the duration. The rights regarding discrimination is to protect the right of the breastfeeding mother to do so. I won't be returning here to fight the fight but as MNHQ deleted the last thread I have had to start my own to give you my own twopence'th if anybody wants to contact us for more information the email address is [email protected]

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SiennaBlake · 14/07/2014 14:43

If there was a message on her wall, I'm not aware of it (it's certainly not there now, but that does not mean it wasn't removed). I've absolutely no intention of misleading anyone over this. Even if that is correct, it still doesn't invalidate the other points made.

Mr Victoria, you know full well there was a post on her wall done by your wife herself. And it certainly does invalidate other points made. If you tell porkies about one thing to cover your back, it's quite likely you'll be telling other porkies to cover your backs too. I like how the part about your wife educating them (read: aggressively lecturing) about the law is brushed over too. There was no simple acceptance of the no children policy.

toriap2 · 14/07/2014 14:44

So glad I'm on a day off today so I didn't miss this. DH is still chuckling about the fairy dust galaxy in your pants as pro and is now thinking about decorating mine with sequins (strong pain meds!)

katese11 · 14/07/2014 14:44

OP YABVU for starting a thread and not coming back to it. Bad form.

MrV ... Your MIL posted on fbook saying she and V had "24 hours without her boys". I saw it, as did others here. Hence thinking she spent 24 without her boys

AgaPanthers · 14/07/2014 14:44

"She went to a Spa, sneaked in a child and upset a few people."

Where did you read this? On the last thread it was a craft weekend I thought? But I haven't found a source for this...

"She also made a complain to John Lewis about their hand dryers no being safe for children completely ignoring the fact 2 adults should be able to stop a child sticking their fingers in electrical equipment."

Actually the problem was the child got his head stuck behind the hand dryer for a few seconds, before the 2 adults helped him get out, and then she made numerous complaints until eventually John Lewis built a cover to stop other children sticking their heads into the back of the hand dryer.

diddl · 14/07/2014 14:44

How could the bfeeding mother break the rules when she wasn't the winner?

Idontknowwhysheswallowedafly · 14/07/2014 14:47

sashh
^She went to a Spa, sneaked in a child and upset a few people.
Her mother won a trip to this spa and invited Victoria.
Victoria wants to be allowed to bf in the spa. The manager cancelled the booking^

So Victoria has form for sneaking a child in to a spa and then asked a different spa if she could bring her baby on to the premises? After supposedly agreeing she could, they've obviously found out she has done this before and are taking steps to ensure she doesn't do it in their gaff.

EarthWindFire · 14/07/2014 14:47

How could the bfeeding mother break the rules when she wasn't the winner?

Maybe someth

Nancy66 · 14/07/2014 14:47

how old is the kid in question?

Retropear · 14/07/2014 14:47

Chat I know I looked after reading the other thread,had no idea it was so near.Have a friend who must live next door.Could combine the two.Looks gorgeous and the food is supposed to be fab too(don't do carrot and lettuce leaf spas).

The no child policy is an added bonus.

Kind of wondering why the lady in question didn't book Centre Parks which must be near her.Children are allowed and it has a spa.Confused

toriap2 · 14/07/2014 14:47

There was a post on the sit in page from a woman who had been at the first occasion where she sneaked her baby in over the protests of the other participants in the ADULTS only retreat. The lady got an absolute flaming from MrVictorias family and the whole page got pulled.

angelohsodelight · 14/07/2014 14:47

Who the fuck would want to use glittery sparkly san pro?
Shock Hmm Shock Hmm Shock Hmm

VanessaShanesa · 14/07/2014 14:47

So has she been in the news or something then with the child's head/hand dryer interface situation?

SiennaBlake · 14/07/2014 14:48

diddl, presumably the enabling mother was backing her.

Nicknacky · 14/07/2014 14:49

Nancy, the child is 1 year old apparently.

EarthWindFire · 14/07/2014 14:49

Pressed send too soon...

Something in t&c, too many entries... Who knows.

katese11 · 14/07/2014 14:49

And linking to CF on her business fbook page and inciting others to attack their wall was what started this. Again, we all saw it before it was deleted.

OP I answered a lot of your points on the other thread but FYI my breastfed 2yo is laughing herself silly about the "bfeeding mothers should be allowed to have a normal adult life" bit. Of course we can't! The few years when you have to be at the Beck and call of a small human demanding milk are not normal! It's not a bad life or a substandard one but it does require a degree of careful planning.

TheFairyCaravan · 14/07/2014 14:49

She went to an adult retreat Aga. A woman who went at the same time posted on the nurse-in Fb page about it, and V and her parents, particularly her father were incredibly nasty to her. Apparently the baby was brought in for the bedtime feed, stayed over night and most of the next day. It upset a lot of people.

sashh · 14/07/2014 14:50

people also seem to be under the impression that Victoria started a level of online witch hunt against the venue.

So I didn't read, on a public facebook page, her threatening to do just that? My mistake, but as the message has been deleted you can't prove it can you?

deXavia · 14/07/2014 14:50

Often I miss good threads as i'm on the wrong side of the world. Tonight I have G&T and this thread
So thanks Mr and Mrs V - long may your utter insanity and self entitlement continue Grin

VanessaShanesa · 14/07/2014 14:50

Well I googled tie dyed sanpro and got lots of pictures of what looked like those Rorschach tests.

Nancy66 · 14/07/2014 14:50

1 years old? so the kid could easily have not been breastfeed for a weekend.

AgaPanthers · 14/07/2014 14:50

diddl: we don't know what happened.

It's very possible that something like this happened:

Mrs. FanjoPad calls spa: 'Can you get me a breastfeeding room while I'm on my free spa holiday prize?'
Minimum wage spa worker: 'Er, I'll have to check that for you. Let me call you back.'

48 hours pass....

Spa manager 'I'm sorry we cannot accommodate any children in the spa'
Mrs. FanjoPad 'Equalities Act 2010 blah blah blah, human rights, sue you.'
Spa manager 'Right that's it, we are cancelling your prize, you are trouble, we don't want you here.'
Mrs. FanjoPad, meekly 'I could feed in the car park?'
Spa manager 'No, I've had quite enough of you!'
Mrs. FanjoPad 'You've not heard the last from this Mummy!'

HaroldsBishop · 14/07/2014 14:50

Mr. Victoria, perhaps we could join forces. I have also felt the cold hand of discrimination from "the establishment".

I recently won a trip for two to a local clay pigeon shooting venue. Imagine my disbelief when I was told I would NOT be allowed to breastfeed my baby on the range. I was incandescent, as was my wife....

unlucky83 · 14/07/2014 14:51

theother12
Another one here who saw and would testify to seeing the post on Victoria's business page - which obviously isn't a closed facebook page - or it wouldn't have been very good for business would it?
And it is still active...
I was very interested that she hadn't put it on her personal page - which has lot less than 1000+ likes ...
I think time to come clean - if it went to court it would be perjury...
just saying...have you taken proper legal advice?
I posted on the other thread I actually felt a bit sorry for her - throw a tantrum - not realising what a shit storm would happen - and the fact that she had no privacy settings on her personal (or her mothers) facebook pages so we all know lots of personal info ...and what she looks like (and indeed you look like and her mum and her children )
Read all her posts - lots of contradictions - couldn't take a bottle/cup - but only feeds at night (not withstanding the hospital thing)
As to the nurse in - what everyone else has said - really not doing bf mothers any favours (And yep I did mine for years too)...not a bf feeding issue...
I think we can all use this to learn a lesson - (both on privacy settings in facebook) - and using social media...

AgaPanthers · 14/07/2014 14:52

TheFairyCaravan, what's the FB page for the nurse-in? Is it linked from the CF FB page? Or from the SewEntitled FB page?