To think ITV should NOT have shown

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Tonight's repeat of Benidorm which features Les singing on the karaoke.....Rolf Harris Two little boys .

It wasn't brief either he is singing the whole bloody song!

I am not saying that am I Last

I am saying the timing was a bit considering yesterdays verdict.

At no point have I said he should be erased from memory/recordings (although that would be preferable). Now you are being the silly one.

Opps sorry daft one.

the Australian response

It's an oversight of scheduling of a TV show on after the watershed. It doesn't really warrant the same outcry as the Tweenies episode where Max dressed as Jimmy Saville being shown a couple of months ago, on a channel specifically aimed at children, does it.

These things happen with re-runs. Events happen between filming, airing and re-airing. Episodes aren't reviewed before they go out for every aspect of their content but may be checked as they air to make sure there aren't any glitches. During that checking, someone spotted the
Inappropriate reference so it was pulled from the repeat. I'm not sure what more one could ask tbh.

I'm a bit suspicious of them not knowing.

Off switch in the first few bars would have stopped the stomach churn.

and became a popular music hall song of the time, made popular by Harry Lauder

I didn't know about the Harry Lauder connection.

Spud sang it in trainspotting.

PARD dear Mumsnetters, PARD. It's a perfectly reasonable question, and the OP doesn't need to be shredded over it.

FWIW I think it was rather an unfortunate coincidence, and probably not the right time to show that particular episode.

with a notice saying if you can see this legally we are not allowed to show what was on earlier.

What law would that be?

And if we're going to institute erasing criminals from history (but not murderers as we like to make films about them) then maybe we could also being in the Two Minutes Hate.

I'm not hearing any call to erase criminals from history (although if one could....)
But the celebration of songs/ performances/ catchphrases that are associated with men who are now known to have have raped and sexually abused children is inappropriate and likely to cause distress.
Music is very evocative. There's really no such thing as "just a song" and the new associations are not trivialities which ppl should "get over"
Some things will bemissed of course, but that doesn't mean the issue should be ignored.

If songs are "just songs" why do people spend so much time choosing music for their wedding, funerals, parties, have special songs between couples, constant threads on here about favourites etc etc etc

I actually turned over to ITV just as this bit came on I did think it was a bit unfortunate ,I was/watching an old episode of who wants to be a millionaire a few/weeks ago and there was/a/question about jimmy saville one of those things I suppose.

All reruns of TOTP2 have Gary Glitter removed from the schedules.
I suspect that particular episode of Benidorm will also be permanently off-air from now on.

What law would that be?

No idea Back.

Omg it's just a song people!!

Really what is the world coming to, quick lets burn everything the man ever touched.

It wasn't the song Free it was the timing of it and the fact that he was referred to as great. It may just me a song to you but I would imagine anyone who he has abused would find it distressing to hear.

I'd say just by watching Benidorm you're being unreasonable
No, you're not unreasonable to not want to hear a song by a convicted abuser on TV. It does seem however that ITV redeemed themselves by removing it from +1.
No need for the flack you've been given on here either.

Isla I couldn't find the remote DD2 has a tendency to hide it so had being watching itv for 4 hours well that's my excuse.

I think some just hang around AIBU waiting to pounce on the first post where a pasting can be dished out. I think they think their witty posts make them look good when in truth it just makes them look nasty.

I see exactly where your coming from Dotty but I'm wondering if it's seen as different to air someone else singing that song as RH doesn't own it and will get no Royalties from it being used? GG songs are not played as he would get Royalties each time. It's a difficult one as that song does have memories for many people, but it's always going to be associated with him.

Ever since the Moors Murders in the 60's I have hated The Little Drummer Boy which is everywhere at Christmas. Ijust weep inwardly, it isn't the song to blame but Op YANBU.

I don't think they will one, as you say even though it is not 'his' song it is very much associated with him. I think it will always cause a raised eyebrow or two when it is played publicly.

I was watching the news yesterday and it showed footage of a campaign he did in the 70's/80's called my body (I think) and it was him singing a song teaching children about child abuse. Disgusting man.

I'm not going to paste you, OP but I think there are some distinctions that should be made.

Some people were actually abused.
Some people know people who were abused.
Some people fall in to neither category but have been affected by the stories of abuse.

Nobody can say how anybody else should be feeling but I think that the almost gleeful postings looking to blame somebody for scheduling a programme that contains something related to an abuser isn't helpful to anybody in any category. It just winds some people up and it should stop.

I never much liked the song 'Two Little Boys' but actually, it doesn't affect me particularly. I fall into the first category, by the way, but not by Rolf Harris. I might feel differently if I had. Anyway, I can still appreciate that he's done horrific things and he deserves every punishment that's coming his way but it doesn't detract from the fact that he is a great artist and public performer. He has lost all of that and has the knowledge that he's reviled now across the world. I'm just sorry that Saville never got to realise the same thing.

I think that it's very unhelpful to everybody to condemn TV schedulers and somewhere along the line, we have to be the adults and switch the TV off when we don't like the programme. If we really hate something then we have the right of complaint.

The abuser is often somebody quite close to the person and that person may have loved them very much. That's why it's quite difficult for some to read the revulsion from people who haven't personally experienced it and therefore can't comprehend the complex feelings and despair.

I find all these threads quite 'triggering' to be honest and, even just the titles make my heart sink.