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To think that Saville was NEVER a "Much loved family favourite"???

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MrsWinnibago · 26/06/2014 13:33

Sorry to start a thread about this sick, awful animal but they just said on Radio 4 that he was a much loved family favourite.

I CLEARLY remember watching him on Jim'l Fix It and thinking "Oh he's HORRIBLE!"

I hated him...he was frightening and I could see that some children were very scared of him on that show.

Did ANYONE actually enjoy his "performances" and appearances?? I don't think so.

I think the establishment kept him where he was...on TV and in positions of power because he knew too much about THEIR activities.

And it's funny how it all came out once he was dead and couldn't name anyone else.

I challenge anyone to think back and remember how much they "loved" him at the time before his activities were known.

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PhaedraIsMyName · 27/06/2014 20:02

I'm not going to re-write history just because some of you don't believe some of us never liked Jimmy Savile.

I always thought he was repulsive. He looked vile and tacky and wore hideous , nasty nylon track-suits and cheap medallions. I hated the way he spoke using grating ungrammatical language.

He was not an "eccentric". He was common. (Hears late mother saying only common people call other people common, but she'd know what I mean)

I'm a snob, I always have been and likely always will. Much popular culture leaves me cold and puzzled. Savile was never my cup of Earl Grey with a slice of lemon.

fatlazymummy · 27/06/2014 20:25

Agree with you Phaedra (well not so much the common bit). He was just shit. I used to hate the weeks he presented TOTP. He was very very lucky to get those TV gigs from the BBC. But then so were plenty of other 'entertainers' of the day.
Most TV was absolute shit, people just watched it out of boredom really, there wasn't much else to do.

Deverethemuzzler · 27/06/2014 20:28

I didn't have any instincts as a child about JS. I just thought he was horrible and weird.

As an adult I definitely thought there was something going on with him but I wouldn't' have guessed at what or the extent of it.

I don't think its outrageous to suggest that lots of adults didn't like him when they were children.
Children don't tend to warm to strange men with yellowing teeth, mad hair and wrinkles.
He had zero charisma. No warmth about him.

Children don't like people like that.

Rooners · 27/06/2014 20:28

I actually remember wanting to write in with a request to 'fix it', but being reluctant to because I didn't want to have to go near him or sit on his lap.

So I never did.

waterducksback · 27/06/2014 20:28

YABU
He WAS a much loved family favourite! That is the tragic thing about it!
I have friends who wrote to Jim'lFix it!
What an old perv.
Yuck

Pagwatch · 27/06/2014 20:38

For goodness sake - stop the sniping. It's really unedifying given the topic.

Saville was always 'hiding in plain sight'. He was weird and creepy - that was his persona.
If that was repellent to you or your mum - congratulations. You were right.
If it wasn't. Well you were just part of a generation brought up to trust those who seemed blessed by authority. It wasn't unusual. It was naive but that's not a bad thing - just a factor of living at that time.

But no, thinking he was weird does not ake you intuitive. It was just what he looked like.
Thinking he was odd but nothing more does not make you stupid or gullible. He created a persona designed to challenge and confuse.

Pretending people have a god given instinct is optimistic. Most people would still tell you that the bloke who abused me was a great guy. Stop kidding yourself.

Pagwatch · 27/06/2014 20:40

God that was bossy.
Sorry.
It's just annoying.

YANAgurl1973 · 27/06/2014 21:02

I met him once in the 80s. My best friends dad was a nurse at broad more so I was invited to a Christmas party.js was there handing out vouchers as gifts to everyone. Even then I got strange vibes off him. After yesterdays revelations of what happened in mortuaries, does anyone think he must have done stuff to his mum? He mentioned on Louis yheroux that when she died he kept her at home for a few days.nothing would surprise me anyone :(

Pagwatch · 27/06/2014 21:05

" he must have done stuff to his mum?"

Can we have a 'WTAF' emoticon?

Scarletohello · 27/06/2014 21:10

Well if he posed dead bodies in sexual poses in the morgue, went down on dead women's vaginas and stole dead people's glass epyes to wear as jewellery ( as has now been reported) then who knows what he was capable of...??

MrsWinnibago · 27/06/2014 21:11

it was just what he looked like Pag actually no, you're very wrong as far as my experience is concerned.

I didn't even register his looks....it was the way he told a child off on JFI and I watched this child sitting on his sofa, and the child was holding back tears as JS sort of told him off in a really awful way.

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MrsWinnibago · 27/06/2014 21:13

And that was ALL it took...that's not instinct...I just noticed it and even as a kid I knew that that wasn't "normal"...not something presenters did...

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BoomBoomsCousin · 27/06/2014 21:17

I suppose it's a bit like the BBC calling Top Gear and Jeremy Clarckson much loved family favourites. It's a well watched show and Clarckson's persona is popular with many. But you'll still get plenty of people saying they dislike him (even if they watch Top Gear). Should some sordid tale come out in the future about how he was really funding a NeoNazi party* then a lot of people would be surprised and re evaluate theri opinion of him, but there would be plenty of people who would look back and say "But obviously! He was awful. I don't understand how he was allowed to get away with it for so long."

And they'd all be right from their perspectives. His program would probably be call a "favourite", though he's not loved by everyone. For some people he is already awful. For some he's funny. For some he's a harmless fool. And any future disgrace will illuminate those distinctions.

BoomBoomsCousin · 27/06/2014 21:18

*I know nothing about Clarckson and any suport of NeoNazi parties.

ComposHat · 27/06/2014 21:20

I was terrified of Mr Benn... screamed my head off as soon as he got into fancy dress. If he gets revealed to be a paedophile I want to put it on record that I as he upset me as a child I knew despite him me being a cartoon and me not knowing what a pedophile was.

Pagwatch · 27/06/2014 21:23

Grin at ComposHat

Well yes, exactly.

YANAgurl1973 · 27/06/2014 21:24

Exactly scarlet. I was so shocked all all the terrible things he has done, that nothing would surprise me..

Badvoc2 · 27/06/2014 21:26

I remember a then gf of my cousin who worked at Stoke Mandeville hospital actually shuddering when his name was mentioned.
And that's 30 years ago....

Hakluyt · 27/06/2014 21:28

Is it perhaps time for this thread to go?

Just a thought.

Pagwatch · 27/06/2014 21:31

Tush Hakluyt

Some folk are just hugging themselves with joy at the stuff he might have done and how they spotted him right early...

Scarlet is quite beside herself.

Hakluyt · 27/06/2014 21:34

Shudder....

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 27/06/2014 21:34

I didn't spot him as being creepy, but I am not feeling judged by those on this thread who did.

fatlazymummy · 27/06/2014 21:35

Why should the thread go? If you don't like it then you can block it,can't you.

Hakluyt · 27/06/2014 21:35

What was my lovely new sentence from earlier? Oh yes. "Instinct is often bollocks"

CarpetBagger · 27/06/2014 21:41

Well if he posed dead bodies in sexual poses in the morgue

I dont doubt that he did, but wheeling them round, posing men and women together...imagine the weight of them?

it would take an awful lot of physical exertion and time to manouvre and wrestle with them...really ...would it have been worth it?