Ive Just shopped someone for benefit fraud, do I deserve to burn in hell.

[Gulitladen]

I feel quite bad.

This person is an acquaintance, She was a single parent for a few months, then she met someone who pretty much moved in, he was paying her bills for her and moved in properly earlier this year.

She has always worked full time with a salary of around 20k.

She seems to have an awful lot of money, and, as a single parent myself, I couldnt quite work it out. However, I have seen her tax credits renewal form as she didnt understand something and asked me to have a look for her, and shes claiming to be a lone parent, working 16.3 hours a week, earning 12k a year less than she actually is.

She is also claiming housing benefit as a single parent.

So, I have completed the DWP form and sent it off. I couldnt help it, it makes me see red.

But I now feel terrible.

You know what, MrsDowney I don't know what anyone is saying, what anyone means any more.

I give up.

Ilove - I think there is a limit to what you can know about other people's relationships and in any case - however blatant and taking the piss a person is - you know that reporting them will drive a truck through their life. I'm just not interested in doing that.

OK, I tell you what, I'll go back on the dole now, get back in the situation I was in before and do it the legal proper way and in 10 years time when you're paying for my house and fully funded life and kids you can tell me which you preferred. I'll tell my cousin to pay back the few thousand she took fraudulently but she should also claim back the tens of thousands that enabled her to pay in, and I'll tell my friend to stop cleaning, let the council take her to court, get herself in serious financial struggles, stop training and get a part time minimum wage job and spend the next 7 or 8 years clawing her way up to where she could be in 6 months doing it properly because it's better for the tax payer to give her more over the long term than her fiddle for 6 months for the sake of £100 a month now. I give up.

Obviously my cousin should also get the amount he would have had in benefits and housing over the years too. Ludicrous.

WHY WHY WHY are you saying that your cousin would never have worked forever if he had never cheated the system? He was already working, just not reporting it. Why would he have been on benefits forever? Thats what I dont understand. Your totally overstating the cost to the taxpayer.

I would not report anyone for that reason and a few others Mrs M. Not even this cousin chap.

Ok, I'm relatively new to MN and not used to 'goady posts' 'bun fighting' or similar.

BUT, OP asked AIBU to report someone for benefit fraud when I strongly suspect it is being committed..

Some people felt YANBU, it is a crime and if you suspect it you should report it.

Some people felt YABU for various reasons:
-it is always wrong to grass
-it is none of your business
-it is a victimless crime
-you don't have enough information to be sure
-the consequences if you are wrong are too great

But some of these responses are so off topic or just genuinely nasty that I am genuinely shocked.

I'm pretty sure that most of us when we post in AIBU want to be told we are not! However even when we disagree, surely it should be done with respect?!

But why do you have to be on the dole? This is what I don't understand. If you went on the dole instead of working then you choose to do so?

If she was claiming jsa, housing and CTB that's a fairly big chunk of money over 6 months. What if everyone done that. There would be nothing left for people who really do need it. She could have worked and still been in the council flat. Why because she lived in a council flat did she have a to stay on benefits. You can actually live in a council house and work?

MrsMaturin

Yes but I just can't put someone who's struggling to survive so working extra hrs on the side in the same bracket as someone knowingly fiddling the system through sheer greed and because they can.

Due to what Mrs Downey Junior has posted I have decided that people are right when they say the whole system is broken. It's not what the welfare state is for. It's not for people to make a quick buck off or do they can leave their kids a house. It just makes a mockery of all the people who are really desperately in need of help.

Id think this cousin was an out and out pisstaker, but I wouldnt report.

I would totally have a word though, as someone else would be very quick to do it I bet.

With a bit of guidance, maybe he would have realised that he would have been just as well to get a job rather than live under that awful stress. He was working three days anyway, it just makes no sense to me at all.

He must have been very stressed, working all those years in cash in hand jobs wondering if he was going to get caught, when he could have been saving from a proper job and building up pension rights etc. I

This could have easily had a far less happy outcome for him, I would say he was very very lucky.

so we have now moved on to council houses..
nah can't be arsed to post, to much made up shite on this thread.

I still want to know when someone's going to hand me my council house.

Harold sorry the he was a typo, cousin is a she.

I really don't see how she was piss taking at all. IMHO benefits are not a lifelong solution, they have always supposed to have been a short term helping hand to get people back on their feet and that is exactly how I, my friend and my cousin have used them. She worked bloody hard, saved up, bought her flat which she had every right to do with the laws at the time for all your jealous grumbling and moaning about it Corey, and has built a great life for herself, her kids, her husband and has something to leave her kids so hopefully they'll never have to claim and then their kids and theirs etc. It's not that she would never have worked had she not cheated, but I don't think she'd have had the energy and drive to do the amount needed for the time needed to get to the same position legitimately and I think she would have given up and accepted the council flat and benefits lifestyle far sooner, I certainly would have. I look around and I see thousands of others who have. I really don't see how it's taking the piss to get off benefits and into a good life as quickly as possible. I think it's taking the piss to stay on benefits for your whole life. I have an uncle who is 50 and has never worked a single day in his life. I can't entirely blame him as he has learning difficulties and was never encouraged to work and lived with his parents till they died but there is no real reason he couldn't have got out of his life and become self sufficient and had he cheated for a year or two to make that happen and spent the last 30 years working it would have been more than worth it.

I really don't see how she was piss taking at all. IMHO benefits are not a lifelong solution,

But they are not. You can claim till your youngest is 5 and then have to find a job

She worked bloody hard, saved up, bought her flat which she had every right to do with the laws at the time for all your jealous grumbling and moaning about it Corey

Rightyo. Why would I be jealous of your benefit fiddling cousin?

I bet she has loads of handbags though.

I give up.

Your posts are just getting more and more ridiculous. Now if your uncle had of cheated the system he would have made some this of his life.

If he's capable of getting a job whilst claiming benefits he is capable of getting a job and paying his way, same as you and your cousin. It's absurd what you saying and makes absolutely no sense.

You are saying you can only make something of your life if you fiddle your benefits, If you don't a idle your benefits you Wi be stuck in a council estate on the dole. You can live in a council house, not claim and have a job and pay your rent or save up to buy or whatever. You seem to think the only people who live in council estates are baby popping chaos with 4 generations on benefits so the only way to avoid being like this is to rob your way out of it

I bet she has loads of handbags though.I give up.

Me too Harold

When some posters spread their bitterness all over MN. It makes you wonder if MN is all about making parents lives easier or all about making posters feel like shit for the lolz.

As stated by another poster up thread, it's to "educate". Which means that MNHQs idea of education is as fucked up as Goves.

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