To be horrified by the Card Factory

[Kidsinamerica123]

Browsing and came across this card. For those who can't see it - it's one of those 'old photo with a (supposedly) witty caption' 2 men are pictured standing by a fence with a caption that reads "Having popped out for a fag, Nigel was delighted when one turned up immediately."

Absolutely disgusted by this I called the Card Factory's head office straight away (I demanded the number in the shop), only to be informed "Head office only deal with complaints made in writing - there's nothing I can do for you now!"

AIBU to assume the good-readers of Mumsnet can help them address their misguided, revolting homophobic humour TODAY without waiting for letters to arrive?

Obviously not nothing is that black and white.

Andrewandrewofgg Check again and you will find that following the equality act 2010 the clauses changed on that act. It doesn't just relate to the quality of goods, it goes far wider than that. Not as wide as the provision of services within the public sector, granted, but wide enough that items which are discriminatory can be pulled, and not just because of bad business.

The chamber of commerce, the EHRC and stonewall all provide advice on this if you want to contact them.

YABU

Kim several people on this thread have said they would send this card.

If I were the card buying person at the Card Factory I'd have out this one on the "nah" pile. IMO it's not actually that funny or a particularly clever pun.

As a consumer I wouldn't buy it for anyone, because it's not actually that funny or a particularly clever pun IMO.

As to horrified. Nope it doesn't push that button. But I would've gone in the shop.

My dh is called Nigel.
I am very offended.

I don't see that this card discriminates within a legal framework - would be interested in seeing links to similar cases though

You're just being over-sensitive.

It's not derogatory in English usage, OP.

Cigarette or younger boy who acts as servant to older boy in a public school. Also being fagged - knackered, exhausted or the tail end of something... the fag end of a good weekend (Sunday evening).

Then fag as in gay ' homosexual.

Nothing nasty (unlike the American faggot version of fag).

Bit bobbins to go so far as to ring and complain!

Ye gods, where did those 8/9 pages come from?

We were laughing at the outrage on page 1, the ONLY page, he went to the pub, I pressed Post Message and there they were!!!!

You lot type really fast!

It's already been established no one would say it to someone unless they were 100% sure it wouldn't offend them.

Me! 'Who's the fag in the frock?' - I actually said those words out loud about a total stranger.

OK, it was at SILs 40th party and she and most of her friends are gay and the bloke in question looked stunning - so I was on fairly safe ground.....

Reader, I married him (No, not really, but I have always wanted to say that, too).

Certain friends of mine and I will occasionally say "Bitch, please!" and we think it's hilarious although certainly I don't really like people referring to women as bitches. It's a joke.

OP, are you gay? Do you personally know anyone who's. gay? If not, yabu

I think it's hilarious & you are totally overreacting.

I think it's safe to say that fag is still a pretty current form of homophobic abuse in this country. Wonder what Tom Daley would make of the card if he happened upon it in the shop.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4372196/

Of course I wouldn't call someone in here a fag.

I don't know them
I have no reason to want to hurt them
And I have no idea what they have been through in their life.

A friend I have known since school who calls me a cow or a bitch or whatever and laughs at that herself, then yeah. Because we know eachother and care about eachother and it's just part of the banter.

And you could be the nastiest person on the planet and I would still not use fag or whatever in a derogatory way because that would have nothing to do with why I disliked a person so immensely. It would be who they were and what they had done, not their sexuality.

Pretty current as a term of abuse....

... oh yes! My error. Those of us above 30, 40?, would probably only know fag like that from American films etc.

I suppose the young'uns may well use the word in its full on American meaning... like so much else.

But I am not sure when people over a certain age become non existant, societally, legally etc, in situations like this. As in, does my understanding really have no worth just because the next generation has changed the meaning of a word?

I suppose it does.... but I don't have to agree with the po face maunderings that only seem to patronise hypothetical gay men! So I won't!

Kim, I think in my post I explained that that is exactly what I did.

I also explained the context.

And he did hear me. I didn't marry him but he is a good friend.

Like many gay people (and I actually know a lot, family members, neighbours, colleagues) he isn't a sad, easily hurt, martyr to his sexuality. He is a gay man who does frocks. If he had been upset then he would most definitely have been in the wrong place, wrong frock, wrong life.

I could tell you about the transgendered woman I work with. But I suspect the conversations I have about her needing to go back to her vocal coach would possibly shock you! I mean, fancy pointing it out....