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..to be so upset? (Long, long story....)

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nollypat · 19/06/2014 01:25

Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...
In the wee small hours before the school run my husband and I returned home from a week long trip away to celebrate my husband's ...ahem...thirty- tenth... birthday. We have never left our children for this long before, and I admit I was nervous.
While we were away, my in-laws very kindly looked after our two children, in our home. The relationship between us and my in-laws has never been easy- my husband's mum (who he was very close to) died before we had children, and my FIL, who had been devoted to my original MIL, remarried very swiftly. My new "MIL" has always been very good with the children and encouraged family gatherings, although we know she is often economical with the truth and has always been quite controlling, which I believe is a result of insecurities arising from her own unhappy childhood, the ashes of which I admire her for rising from.
When my children (now 8 and 5) were babies, my in-laws would frequently ignore my requests to not wake them/ feed them chocolate/ sweets/ leave them in the sun etc, and we therefore never left our children alone with them.
In the last couple of years, things seemed to have improved, and as a result, on two previous occasions we have left our children with my in-laws for 2-4 days.
We know my in-laws like to be in control, and on each occasion we have returned to find they have rearranged some things in our house (reorganizing drawers/ furniture etc), which we accepted as our penance. We also know my MIL had been rummaging through our personal items, bedside drawers, reading post etc.
My in-laws have always been very critical of us, which we tend to roll eyes and ignore- we don't garden enough, we let our children watch TV (somedays), we don't eat red meat, we keep our son with aspergers in a mainstream school (where he does very well thank you). Since we moved house they have been repeatedly 'suggesting' we knock down walls "to open the place up" ( no thanks, we like the walls where they are), and we should apparently get rid of our trees, because the garden is always in the shade. (This is one of the reasons we bought the house- my eldest and myself are nearly albino, and sun-phobic. Our garden was family friendly even in the height of summer)
So... we returned from our trip in the early hours, then woke this morning (after the in-laws had left) to find that they have cut down our trees, removing all shade from our garden, (because that's how they like their own garden)leaving so much garden waste we will need to hire a multitude of skips to remove it before we can use the garden- we can't even get to the washing line or bins at the moment. We then found they have cleared out our garage because they considered it "junk".
Oh, they also introduced themselves to the neighbours and slated us for storing "junk" in our garage, and not cutting our neighbours hedge ( we offered, our neighbour said he preferred to do it himself).
What upset me most is that they cut both children's hair, and my 5 year old has been crying because she wanted to keep growing it. When we were away we Skyped, I asked why their hair had been cut, MIL said they were getting bullied at school because their hair was too long (?) When I asked my children about this, they had no idea what I meant.
I am fuming about all of this (i actually feel physically sick), and my husband is mildly livid, but doesn't want to start a family feud. I know my children adore their grandparents, and I don't want them to lose that relationship so I don't know what to do.
I now feel stupid and selfish for going away- we won't do it again, obviously.
Why would someone do this to somebody who trusts them? I am sad and angry. I feel violated actually (and I mean no offence to victims of burglary or worse) I don't know what to do now. I feel tonight that I would be happy to never see my in-laws again, but I know that would be wrong, and I know my children love them, and I know I will feel more rational in a day or two.
Any suggestions?
Sorry for the rant.....

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DogCalledRudis · 19/06/2014 08:51

Cut down your trees? Holy crap

Cocolepew · 19/06/2014 08:56

Ive posted this befire on mil threads but here goes .
Me and Dh went on our honeymoon, a few months , after the wedding . FIL was putting paper up in the living room of our flat so had a key. The flat had been mine, I had it before I met DH and his name hadnt been added yet.

When we came back I noticed the furniture was odd in the living room. Lamps put in vases type of thing . I oresuned it was FIL nit knowing where things went. Then went into the bedrom and could hardly get the door open because the bed had been completely moved Hmm

Everything in the room had been totally rearranged to how MIL wanted it. She had:
Gone through my make up and toiletries binning what she wanted. My pills were left on my pilllow Confused

Re washed delicated tops I had left drying flat in the bathroom, totally ruining them.

Rearranged all the kitchen cupboards.

Had gone through all my personal paperwork and through out anything which didn't have DHs name on it too. So basically everything connected to my buying the flat, my mortgage , my insurance , my wage slips my p60 etc.

I had cupboards, which had heating pipes, at the back of them. This is where she put my, collectable, vinyl records. Of course she then put the heating on, in July, and warped them all.

I went ballastic and so did DH.

THIS is what your DH nees, to do. Fuck not wanting a family feud. This will not improve, it will only get worse.

Bill them for the skip hire, the cost of removals and the cost if replanting.
They should be in their knees, grovelling apologies.

DoJo · 19/06/2014 09:11

If a family feud does happen, YOU won't be the one who has started it! It sounds like you have already put up with quite a lot of crap from them in the name of maintaining cordial relations, but they are pushing and pushing and this really is a desperately mean-spirited thing for them to have done.

It's not like they REALLY thought they were helping - your kids obviously weren't being bullied, you had clearly stated that you liked the trees and there was just no need or point to 'clearing' your garage, so it's not like you can even entertain the notion that they might have had good intentions. They just don't give a shit about what you want - how can you trust them with that attitude?

weebarra · 19/06/2014 09:12

Coco, no?! That is so beyond wrong. Did she attempt to give any justification for what she did?

KERALA1 · 19/06/2014 09:15

Cockle pew I would have felt sick seeing all that it's like something out of a film! Do you think it's because they still see their dh and by extension you as "the children" not autonomous adults in their own right?

Dhs parents are timid and hands off (last saw their grandchildren for 3 hours in January) and would never do anything like this but she does have an odd attitude to dh. She has been breathtakingly rude to him luckily he is strong with good boundaries so when he told her he would not be spoken to like that the response was essentially you are my son I can treat you as I like...

mindthegap79 · 19/06/2014 09:19

OMG. Take them to the small claims court for the cost of restoring your garden. I think it'd be good too for your DC to see you taking this so seriously. Poor you OP Thanks

diddl · 19/06/2014 09:20

I suppose the risking a feud depends on if you want to clear the air & continue seeing them.

So how are things now, Coco?

I wouldn't have thought that people who could do this were worth bothering with anymore tbh.

Would they even be interested in OPs pov??

TwelveLeggedWalk · 19/06/2014 09:27

Cocole, how did that situation resolve itself?

KnackeredMuchly · 19/06/2014 09:31

Coco! How long were you gone for?!

whois · 19/06/2014 09:32

They cut down your trees?? WTF? That is totally deranged behaviour.

To me this is worth starting a family feud about FFS your DH needs to grow a pair and deal with his fucking mental parents.

captainmummy · 19/06/2014 09:33

OP - you don't want to start a family feud? I think you'll find that they have started one - you need to finish it! Shock

I got as far as 'going through your drawers' and started to blow a fuse....really, not normal.

whois · 19/06/2014 09:34

They should be in their knees, grovelling apologies

This. And it's going to be mega expensive to get some large trees out back in, thousands of pounds.

PiratePanda · 19/06/2014 09:36

Oh god that's awful. Your poor children. The poor trees. Not to mention the cost of replacing the trees and the "junk" and repairing relations with neighbours.

That is so many violations I don't know where to start. This is NOT normal. Your PILs are barking and intrusive, and until they realise the gravity of what they have done and apologise (and pay to replace everything) I would not see them.

:(

Honsandrevels · 19/06/2014 09:36

That's horrendous! You have to say something.

My in-laws cut my dd1's hair when I was in hospital with premature dd2. I was beyond mad but dh never said anything because they'd helped us by looking after dd1.

CiderwithBuda · 19/06/2014 09:47

I would have gone nuclear. Straight away. How DARE they? The ONLY way you will ever get through to them how unacceptable it all is is to go nuclear. And your DH needs to be more than mildly livid. It is fine to be totally livid in this instance.

Cocolepew - I remember reading that before on here. Still gobsmacked at it!

Cocolepew · 19/06/2014 09:48

We were away for 5 days.
DHs mum seems to have it in her head about what a loving close relationship they had. It was only in her head . Dh had , and still has, no time for her . She manipulated, bossed, lied and behaved like a spoilt child most of her life . Enabled by FIL I must add.

She was very taken aback when I didn't roll over and take it.

The relationship (with them) has been fractious, to the point of NC over the 20 years we've been married.
They are now divorced , FIL decided at Christmas he didnt want anything to do with us (or his, GD) any more . No idea, why, something about notigetting enough attention when he visited Hmm. MIL comes up occassionally . I'm incredibly rude to her and dont let her in if DH isnt here. I through her out of the house a few monhs, ago again.
The DDs are old enough to know what she's like now and arent really interested in having a relationship of any type with her.

babybelling · 19/06/2014 09:52

nollypat I can't imagine any reaction you might have to this which could possibly be classified as unreasonable. I would go nuclear. There is no justification to any of this at all. You are absolutely entitled to freak out as much as you want to about this, and to expect your DH's full support. (And he should be freaking out, too.)

At the very least, get a few more trees planted, pronto, and have the garden centre bill your MIL. If she demurs, go to small claims.

Is your MIL, er, quite well? It's just that I can't imagine any of the people I know, even the crazy control-freak ones, doing any of this and thinking it normal.

softlysoftly · 19/06/2014 09:53
Shock

Just Shock

Marylou2 · 19/06/2014 09:53

Wow OP.I usually read these threads and discover that someone is complaining about a minor issue but this is something elseShock
I can't really offer advice as it's just all too much!! You have every right to be horrified. I think you need to distance yourself from these people and have a good think about how to proceed.

diddl · 19/06/2014 09:59

"It's just that I can't imagine any of the people I know, even the crazy control-freak ones, doing any of this and thinking it normal."

Exactly that!

My FIL can be really overbearing & I'm sure he would like everyone us to do things as he wants.

But even he would never actually inflict it on someone like that.

FriedSprout · 19/06/2014 09:59
  1. Get your dh angry with his parents, if he can't see how bad this is you
have a problem with dh too
  1. Get price for removal of tree debris, re-planting of trees and cost of one
of those sail thingies to provide shade until the trees grow.
  1. Present bill and a united front to your in-laws
  2. If they refuse to pay, then small claims court
  3. Until and unless all the above is sorted, and apologised for then they
can't and won't be trusted with the house or children again. - sorry, but I wouldn't leave dc with people I couldn't trust not matter how fond of their gp's the dc are. You have to make these decisions for them at their age. It all about trust.
  1. Change the locks, I bet they have copies made of your keys!
  2. A personal apology from them to your daughter too.

In my opinion, you don't sound angry enough at your in-laws, or concerned enough about your dh's acceptance.

This is massive Angry. I have rarely felt so angry on someone else's behalf.

Pennastucky · 19/06/2014 10:02

Absolute fucking liberties taken! I am stunned.

RhiWrites · 19/06/2014 10:04

This is one of the most outrageous things I have ever read. Before your DH considers letting it slide for family harmony get a quote for putting it all right again. I think it very unlikely PIL will pay but that massive cost is something that should be referred to before ever trusting them with so much as a geranium.

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