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..to be so upset? (Long, long story....)

267 replies

nollypat · 19/06/2014 01:25

Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...
In the wee small hours before the school run my husband and I returned home from a week long trip away to celebrate my husband's ...ahem...thirty- tenth... birthday. We have never left our children for this long before, and I admit I was nervous.
While we were away, my in-laws very kindly looked after our two children, in our home. The relationship between us and my in-laws has never been easy- my husband's mum (who he was very close to) died before we had children, and my FIL, who had been devoted to my original MIL, remarried very swiftly. My new "MIL" has always been very good with the children and encouraged family gatherings, although we know she is often economical with the truth and has always been quite controlling, which I believe is a result of insecurities arising from her own unhappy childhood, the ashes of which I admire her for rising from.
When my children (now 8 and 5) were babies, my in-laws would frequently ignore my requests to not wake them/ feed them chocolate/ sweets/ leave them in the sun etc, and we therefore never left our children alone with them.
In the last couple of years, things seemed to have improved, and as a result, on two previous occasions we have left our children with my in-laws for 2-4 days.
We know my in-laws like to be in control, and on each occasion we have returned to find they have rearranged some things in our house (reorganizing drawers/ furniture etc), which we accepted as our penance. We also know my MIL had been rummaging through our personal items, bedside drawers, reading post etc.
My in-laws have always been very critical of us, which we tend to roll eyes and ignore- we don't garden enough, we let our children watch TV (somedays), we don't eat red meat, we keep our son with aspergers in a mainstream school (where he does very well thank you). Since we moved house they have been repeatedly 'suggesting' we knock down walls "to open the place up" ( no thanks, we like the walls where they are), and we should apparently get rid of our trees, because the garden is always in the shade. (This is one of the reasons we bought the house- my eldest and myself are nearly albino, and sun-phobic. Our garden was family friendly even in the height of summer)
So... we returned from our trip in the early hours, then woke this morning (after the in-laws had left) to find that they have cut down our trees, removing all shade from our garden, (because that's how they like their own garden)leaving so much garden waste we will need to hire a multitude of skips to remove it before we can use the garden- we can't even get to the washing line or bins at the moment. We then found they have cleared out our garage because they considered it "junk".
Oh, they also introduced themselves to the neighbours and slated us for storing "junk" in our garage, and not cutting our neighbours hedge ( we offered, our neighbour said he preferred to do it himself).
What upset me most is that they cut both children's hair, and my 5 year old has been crying because she wanted to keep growing it. When we were away we Skyped, I asked why their hair had been cut, MIL said they were getting bullied at school because their hair was too long (?) When I asked my children about this, they had no idea what I meant.
I am fuming about all of this (i actually feel physically sick), and my husband is mildly livid, but doesn't want to start a family feud. I know my children adore their grandparents, and I don't want them to lose that relationship so I don't know what to do.
I now feel stupid and selfish for going away- we won't do it again, obviously.
Why would someone do this to somebody who trusts them? I am sad and angry. I feel violated actually (and I mean no offence to victims of burglary or worse) I don't know what to do now. I feel tonight that I would be happy to never see my in-laws again, but I know that would be wrong, and I know my children love them, and I know I will feel more rational in a day or two.
Any suggestions?
Sorry for the rant.....

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Preciousbane · 19/06/2014 05:59

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Toapointlordcopper · 19/06/2014 06:06

You have unanimous MN permission to go nuclear.

nooka · 19/06/2014 06:11

Wow. My neighbours butchered some of the plants in our mutual garden (flats) and I am afraid I totally lost it and screamed at them like a banshee. Trees take years to grow back (and may have needed permission to remove) I'd be inclined to find out how much the largest equivalent trees would cost and send them the bill. Plus obviously never have them stay at your house ever again.

weebarra · 19/06/2014 06:13

If a feud starts over this I don't think it'll be you who started it, their own actions will have led to it. Have they no boundaries? I have read about some terrible pils on MN but this genuinely takes the biscuit.

flyingspaghettimonster · 19/06/2014 06:15

Wow. I am gob smacked. My mother in law cut all
My kids hair without my permission and Iade it damn clear how gutted I was - she hasn't done it again although she has threatened it and has paid for all haircuts whenever I can be persuaded to give in... But the trees? All your stuff, which is not junk unless you say it is, I mean what were you storing - old schoolwork or cd collections perhaps... Things you don't use with sentimental attachments? Bastards. Utter bastards.

Never, ever leave them in your home again. And make sure they know why.

KatieKaye · 19/06/2014 06:18

that is beyond strange and I'm so sorry about the loss of your trees.
TBH that would be the last time either of them set foot in my house - they have overstepped so many bounds that "normal" people would not even consider breaking. I'm struggling to think what their issues might be, other than extreme nosiness and an obsession with proving they are in control.
As suggested I would leave all contact up to DH and be icily polite if you answer the phone and pass it to him asap but make no actual conversation with them. Anything else sends a message that they have "got away with it" or even "won" - because this is game playing to a very high degree. it's also seriously warped and weird.

fuzzpig · 19/06/2014 06:22

WTF! The tree thing is beyond crazy. Is that not damage to property or something? Legally I mean?

Finola1step · 19/06/2014 06:23

Agree with pp. Wise words from Katie.

jay55 · 19/06/2014 06:31

I'd tell them there were tree preservation orders in place and ask if they'll cover the fines. Then never speak to them again.

KnackeredMuchly · 19/06/2014 06:33

I agree with Katie, they wouldn't be welcome in my house ever again. Never. Contact would be on my, well my DHs terms. When he was able to visit them etc.

It really is appalling.

Mothergothel1111 · 19/06/2014 06:35

Oh dear, a very frank discussion needs to be had, they have overstepped boundaries

Be honest that they can no longer be trusted and will not be allowed unsupervised access to the children or house again. No feud or arguments just a honest conversation. This is how it is, we are in control, we no longer trust you.

Fwiw, I have controlling in laws, not quiet so bad but they did think they could over rule me and make decisions about MY children. They do not get unsupervised access to the children and are firmly reminded that we are the parent and grown ups. We make decisions, they are not allowed to discipline the children, they have seen their arse but there is nothing they can do. They are sidelined and have lost out.

Stand firm, pull together and stamp it out.

Buy a big sun shade for the garden and bill them for that and the removal of the trees.

olgaga · 19/06/2014 06:42

I think you should show this thread to your "mildly livid" DH.

Definitely YANBU! I couldn't be this polite about it!

glasgowstevenagain · 19/06/2014 07:09

They would never see me or my children again or set foot in my house.

Relationship over.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 19/06/2014 07:12

Wow, just wow!!

That would be it I am afraid for both me and DC's, DH could have whatever relationship he wanted but they would have to do a lot to get back in my books. At the very least they should be footing the cost of making good your garden and if any fines come your way for chopping down the trees pass that on to them as well.

Nerf · 19/06/2014 07:13

Really? They found the time to have your trees cut down, and clear the garage and go to the hairdressers? Where is all the garage stuff? If they took it to the tip why not take the tree stuff as well?
They sound super efficient, could do with some help with my house.

FunkyBoldRibena · 19/06/2014 07:16

Doesn't want to start a family feud, lol. I think you will find it is them that started the feud by their outrageous actions. The question is, do you both lie down and take it or do you fight back?

Thumbwitch · 19/06/2014 07:18

Good God. Shock

I almost lost it when my MIL and DH had changed the house around while I took the boys back to the UK, broken some of my stuff by "cleaning" it, and made it feel like I wasn't important enough to be considered in my own home. It took me ages to forgive MIL for that - DH is an inconsiderate arse and he does at least live here, so it's his home too - but she should have known better and massively overstepped boundaries. I blamed both of them, don't worry, not just her.

In your place I would be sending them a bill for the new trees that you will be planting to replace the ones they cut down, AND asking them for compensation for your stuff that they had the utter cheek to throw out. I would then cut contact completely as they clearly have serious boundary issues, do not think that you have any rights in your own home and cannot be trusted an inch.

THe only worse story I've seen on here is when some poster's parents, I think it was, had her dogs put down while she was away because, basically, they couldn't be fagged looking after them! Shock At least no one died in this scenario but it's still way way out of order, what they've done.

londonrach · 19/06/2014 07:21

Agree with nerf, they super organised and should be running the country etc.

Seriously your dh needs to talk to his df. Min they should do is pay for replacement trees, remove the garden waste, pay for some form of shelter for this summer and to replace the 'junk'. I think the 'junk' removal is a police matter. Also as they have 'abused' your dc and your trust they should never be left alone with the dc or in the house again. Meet in natural place or their house if you decide to continue a relationship. (Very hard as is close family). Hope your dd ok today x

ImogenQuy · 19/06/2014 07:24

I would actually call the police - the tree thing is criminal damage to your property. I can't believe your DH isn't more angry!

CeliaFate · 19/06/2014 07:29

When family is concerned I usually keep my counsel and just put up with stuff they do because it's not worth the fall out.

But if someone in my family had done that in my house, I would go full on mental. I would actually wait until they were away and then do the same to them.
I would also never ask them to stay at my house again, and ask for my keys back.
WTF do people think they're doing?!

cozietoesie · 19/06/2014 07:31

Oh I would start a family feud right away. A BIG ONE. I was so angry reading your post that if I were you, I wouldn't be able to restrain myself. Sever relationships forthwith - who knows what they might do next time!

YouTheCat · 19/06/2014 07:31

Go batshit at them, OP.

They don't deserve to spend time with your children if they can't respect your house. Your dh needs to grow some balls.

Hoppinggreen · 19/06/2014 07:33

If a family feud results from this the it will have been them who started it but being absolutely outrageous.

cozietoesie · 19/06/2014 07:35

PS - you're only lucky that you weren't away for long enough for them to start knocking the walls through. If I were you, I'd now be apprehensive about going to work in case of what I came home to find. (You can do a powerful lot in 8 hours.)

Eliza22 · 19/06/2014 07:35

Your DH needs to step up. This is truly an outrage. They knew how you felt about the garden. They cut your children's hair!?! Never mind the consequences....you both need to make it fully clear that your are livid. If it means a separation, so be it. They need to know that what they've done is pretty unforgivable and the only way back (for them) is to pay any costs in "righting" the situation.

There is no other way, OP.