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..to be so upset? (Long, long story....)

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nollypat · 19/06/2014 01:25

Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin...
In the wee small hours before the school run my husband and I returned home from a week long trip away to celebrate my husband's ...ahem...thirty- tenth... birthday. We have never left our children for this long before, and I admit I was nervous.
While we were away, my in-laws very kindly looked after our two children, in our home. The relationship between us and my in-laws has never been easy- my husband's mum (who he was very close to) died before we had children, and my FIL, who had been devoted to my original MIL, remarried very swiftly. My new "MIL" has always been very good with the children and encouraged family gatherings, although we know she is often economical with the truth and has always been quite controlling, which I believe is a result of insecurities arising from her own unhappy childhood, the ashes of which I admire her for rising from.
When my children (now 8 and 5) were babies, my in-laws would frequently ignore my requests to not wake them/ feed them chocolate/ sweets/ leave them in the sun etc, and we therefore never left our children alone with them.
In the last couple of years, things seemed to have improved, and as a result, on two previous occasions we have left our children with my in-laws for 2-4 days.
We know my in-laws like to be in control, and on each occasion we have returned to find they have rearranged some things in our house (reorganizing drawers/ furniture etc), which we accepted as our penance. We also know my MIL had been rummaging through our personal items, bedside drawers, reading post etc.
My in-laws have always been very critical of us, which we tend to roll eyes and ignore- we don't garden enough, we let our children watch TV (somedays), we don't eat red meat, we keep our son with aspergers in a mainstream school (where he does very well thank you). Since we moved house they have been repeatedly 'suggesting' we knock down walls "to open the place up" ( no thanks, we like the walls where they are), and we should apparently get rid of our trees, because the garden is always in the shade. (This is one of the reasons we bought the house- my eldest and myself are nearly albino, and sun-phobic. Our garden was family friendly even in the height of summer)
So... we returned from our trip in the early hours, then woke this morning (after the in-laws had left) to find that they have cut down our trees, removing all shade from our garden, (because that's how they like their own garden)leaving so much garden waste we will need to hire a multitude of skips to remove it before we can use the garden- we can't even get to the washing line or bins at the moment. We then found they have cleared out our garage because they considered it "junk".
Oh, they also introduced themselves to the neighbours and slated us for storing "junk" in our garage, and not cutting our neighbours hedge ( we offered, our neighbour said he preferred to do it himself).
What upset me most is that they cut both children's hair, and my 5 year old has been crying because she wanted to keep growing it. When we were away we Skyped, I asked why their hair had been cut, MIL said they were getting bullied at school because their hair was too long (?) When I asked my children about this, they had no idea what I meant.
I am fuming about all of this (i actually feel physically sick), and my husband is mildly livid, but doesn't want to start a family feud. I know my children adore their grandparents, and I don't want them to lose that relationship so I don't know what to do.
I now feel stupid and selfish for going away- we won't do it again, obviously.
Why would someone do this to somebody who trusts them? I am sad and angry. I feel violated actually (and I mean no offence to victims of burglary or worse) I don't know what to do now. I feel tonight that I would be happy to never see my in-laws again, but I know that would be wrong, and I know my children love them, and I know I will feel more rational in a day or two.
Any suggestions?
Sorry for the rant.....

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SallyMcgally · 19/06/2014 01:33

I wish I could offer sage advice, but don't really know what to say. That is utterly outrageous behaviour and I'm so sorry. You have been violated. I think you're probably right to keep contact for your children's' sake, but I would never ever leave them with these people again, and never leave them alone in your house. Thanks what an utterly shit thing to discover when you came home. Your DH will have to have v firm words with his father.

CorusKate · 19/06/2014 01:35

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PrincessBabyCat · 19/06/2014 01:40

I would definitely have a word with them to put it lightly. I would also inform your DC's that cutting their hair was wrong, so that they don't internalize it and think that it's their fault. I would also gently ask what else happen. The hair cutting may be the tip of the iceberg so to speak.

Honestly, I might contact the police. They stole stuff from your garage. They didn't get rid of junk, they stole your property. Then take them to small claims court to pay for the garden clean up. At the very least they should pay to clean up the mess they made, and even pay up for landscaping fees to get new trees put in.

Family feud or not, what they did was illegal.

Hogwash · 19/06/2014 01:45

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TwelveLeggedWalk · 19/06/2014 01:46

I don't really know what to say. Have you checked all your walls?

Tbh my blood pressure was rising when you said about rearranging drawers and reading post. This would really really upset me.

Aren't trees one of those things that has an intrinsic value ie. if you move house you're not allowed to cut them down/dig them up? So they have basically vandalised your property.

somedizzywhore1804 · 19/06/2014 01:50

Bloody hell OP that's mental! Are they very controlling in other areas of their lives and with other members of your family?

biscuiteer · 19/06/2014 01:55

Oh my god that is unbelievable. What the fuck?? You are definitely NOT ranting, so please don't apologise! I would be fuming too.

I'm sorry you've had to come home to that. And just for the record, you shouldn't expect any of the snooping or rearranging in your house just because you dare to go away. Ever.

Now they have cleared your garage?! Your 'junk'? From YOUR garage?

I suggest you get DH to take your feelings seriously, and understand how bad this is. IS he really ok for MIL to lie about your kids, throw out your belongings, shit stir with your neighbour and ruin your garden without any permission? Nobody wants a family feud, or to fall out but it is undermining of them to whole new level and they need you on a united front to at least know how angry you feel and wrong this is.

In fact I think it is time you just tell them you have had it with everything they or she has done, because you so clearly have. Things have to change and whatever that entails is up to you, but I would be betting that you'll never leave in her your house without you there now, if she is allowed in at all!

Do you think it's your DH's reluctance to upset you fIL that is the main don't rock the boat issue? They aren't children, they are grown adults and don't need to be protected from their own mistakes or choices. They need to back off and get the message that this was last straw in a long line of unacceptable behaviour.

SavoyCabbage · 19/06/2014 01:58

That's outrageous. It really is.

I would never let them be by themselves with the dc again. Obviously!

I would speak to each neighbour individually and tell them you don't know what was said, and you don't want to know, but that you are sorry and that you value them as a neighbour. Or something.

Then I would have a sob over the trees. Then I would do some research and plant some more.

Then I would take my dc to the hairdresser and have it cut again. Just to eradicate the memory of the other cut.

I would leave your pil to your dh.

biscuiteer · 19/06/2014 02:04

Also please don't feel stupid or selfish for going away. You have done nothing wrong here.

UncleT · 19/06/2014 02:10

Doesn't want to start a bloody feud?? Fuck, people just don't behave like your parents did - not normal ones anyway. Tell them to fuck off in no uncertain terms, and to stay well and truly fucked off for good. Words fail me. Violated was the first word that occurred to me when reading the OP - it's not too strong a word for their conduct.

HicDraconis · 19/06/2014 02:13

You have been violated. You trusted them to look after your home and your children and they have failed in both.

What on earth were they thinking when they cut down your trees (which allow you and your child to use the garden), threw out your personal things and cut your children's hair?!

I would be beyond fuming. I would be a screaming wailing banshee of fury. I would also already have told them that they were never going to look after their grandchildren alone again. Ever. And given that they had so clearly demonstrated their opinions that your feelings and wishes don't matter, you're considering never seeing them again at all.

You need to let them know exactly how angry and upset you are - and quite rightly deserve to be. And then leave them to your DH to deal with, I wouldn't be speaking to my in laws again if they pulled this sort of stunt on me.

In terms of hair, you can reassure your DD that it will grow again. And maybe rig up a shadesail in the garden? (and get them to pay for that too). As far as your garage goes - not a lot you can do unless you're happy to go via the police route and accuse them of theft.

Sunflower49 · 19/06/2014 02:22

I would be FUMING!

ESPECIALLY at cutting the children's hair. That's weird, not quite right in the head behavior IMHO-not that the rest of it is excusable, it isn't!

Yes reassure your DD that it will grow back and that if she doesn't want to have her hair cut, it isn't up to Granny to say otherwise.

It's a big issue, is this. It's weird, beyond controlling, and a violation of rights. I would be very upset, and I would not let this go, They have truly violated your rights and your (and your children's) Autonomy and rights over home and belongings. Poor you.

AveryJessup · 19/06/2014 02:22

The trees alone would have me in an apoplectic fit, let alone all the other outrageousness you mention. They sound like they have serious boundary issues and trouble understanding that you and your DH are adults who are entitled to make the decisions about how you live your life without their input.

They should pay for the damage to your garden e.g. the cost of replanting trees, not to mention the lost property from your garage (although that might be a harder battle since they'll see it as 'junk').

Would some reduced / no contact help to teach them that they need to respect your and DH's lives and choices? It seems to me like they have never learned to treat him as an adult. They're infantilizing both of you by interfering in your lives like this. They need to learn that they can't do that.

Singsongmama · 19/06/2014 02:48

My mouth literally fell open half way down your post. They cut down down your trees??? I'd be so bloody angry. Your poor children - they have absolutely no right - what an abuse of power. It's so different from moving furniture or the bird bath in the garden. They need sharp "chopping" things removed from them....seriously though, I'd not be letting them near my children and house unsupervised ever again. And I'd struggle to be with them for a long time til my blood stopped boiling.

JourneyToThePlacentaOfTheEarth · 19/06/2014 02:57

I am genuinely shocked by this. Wtf? Cut trees? Cut hair? Threw your stuff away? It sounds like they spent more time on wrecking your house than looking after your kids. You've every right to be angry imho and however You get that message across (including temporary nc) seems perfectly justified to me

FatherDickByrne · 19/06/2014 02:57

WTF! All costs of putting the garden back to how it was before they butchered it covered & a massive apology. And don't mince your words for the sake of politeness. They need to know they overstepped the mark - to put it mildly. My old tenants gave my beautiful black bamboo a haircut (chopped the top off) & I was gutted. This would be war.

HicDraconis · 19/06/2014 03:51

Can you take your children to their house and while they're entertaining them, go through their drawers and cupboards and throw away anything you think shouldn't be there? And go into their garden and dig up all the plants that are obviously in the wrong place?

If the answer is "no, they'd go ballistic" - there you have it. They know it's wrong, but they decided to go ahead anyway. I'm still fuming on your behalf.

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NoArmaniNoPunani · 19/06/2014 05:10

That's shocking. They should definitely pay for the damage.

parentalunit · 19/06/2014 05:27

YANBU. They shouldn't be rummaging through your personal belongings, etc...but removing your trees?! Cutting your children's hair might be fair enough, but to change the style and lie about the reason is very odd behaviour.

I think strong boundaries should be in place before you let them spend any time alone with your children again. Your parents need to know that they can't trample on your trust.

mindthegap79 · 19/06/2014 05:31

OMG. Take them to the small claims court for the cost of restoring your garden. I think it'd be good too for your DC to see you taking this so seriously. Poor you OP Thanks

LoveBeingInTheSun · 19/06/2014 05:32

YANBU, feud away

FindoGask · 19/06/2014 05:38

It's all awful, and YANBU at all. I think I would be most angry about the trees. I can't understand why they would do that, knowing that you wouldn't be able to enjoy your own garden any more and neither would your eldest child. Is the "practically albino" a medical definition, or do you just mean you're very fair-skinned?

What 'junk' did they remove from your garage?

The haircuts overstepped the mark by some distance too but if you handle this right with your children they should be OK about it. How much was chopped off your daughter's hair?

Cerisier · 19/06/2014 05:39

I am speechless at this. What were they thinking?

They can never be left with the children again after such a massive breach of trust. Even if they thought the children's hair needed cutting they should have asked you or DH first.

As for throwing out your things and cutting down your trees without asking- unbelievable.

antimatter · 19/06/2014 05:50

I think I would be very upset and unable to be rational about it.
I don't know what I would do Sad

Both of you need to start learning about enforcing boundaries. I think you were naive leaving your kids with them as they already behaved irresponsibly in the past.

Lesson learned. I don't know how you are going to move on.
Kids will have to learn to spend less time with their GP's.

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