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264 replies

Canthisonebeused · 16/06/2014 09:35

Not sure why but this doesn't sit right with me, what are others thoughts. It's not a big deal but did bother me a bit.

7 and 8 year old girls doing handstands and cartwheels in the playground at school. Boys being silly laughing at their pants and did not die down after being told not to by playground staff. Therefore girls are sent in to put PE shorts on under their dresses.

I just think they are little girls FFS who care if their pants are showing and the boys should have been delt with. I just don't think it's a good message to sent to girls.

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losingmybelt · 17/06/2014 10:15

I agree with Tabby.
Also, she works in a school so, must come across situations like this all the time.

hatsybatsy · 17/06/2014 10:18

oh right. she works in a school so she must be right? even though she cannot explain her viewpoint at all??

losingmybelt · 17/06/2014 10:31

She is seeing children playing in a school playground setting, day in, day out, so must have a fairly good idea of all the problems that arise, and how to deal with them, I would say.

alemci · 17/06/2014 10:32

my dd's wore shorts under their school skirts at secondary because the boys used to look up their skirts but not at primary.

CumberCookie · 17/06/2014 10:38

I can see both sides. But surely headstands and cartwheels are a h&s issue? I don't want to be a spoilsport but most schools don't allow it because of this.

bubblegun · 17/06/2014 10:42

YANBU

I agree with
Why is it the job of the girls to modify their behaviour or clothing because the boys can't behave?

5madthings · 17/06/2014 10:45

Fgs of course kids can do cartwheels and headstones on School playing fields.

And just because tabby works at a school doesn't make her course of action right.

I am friends with various teachers and spoke to ds3's teachers this morning, all said they would deal with the boys behaviour and not expect the girls to change.

They actually said it was the kind of situation they cover in phse lessons.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 17/06/2014 10:52

YANBU The boys should be taught not to laugh. They all get changed for pe together so presumably they don't all giggle at each others pants then.

Girls should not have to change the way they play because boys cannot control themselves.

Why is it always the female who has to adjust, cover up?

LumpySpacedPrincess · 17/06/2014 10:53

For what it's worth this happened at dds school and the boys were spoken to.

5madthings · 17/06/2014 10:56

Yes my ds3 in yr 4 and they all get changed for pe in the same room, those that want to can go to classrooms but the majority still change in classroom. They manage to do this without collapsing in fits of laughter.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 17/06/2014 10:58

DD spends most of playtime upside down on the monkey bars with her knickers showing. I would be surprised if a teacher told her to put shorts on when she is wearing her correct school uniform.

I would be really surprised if my DS's laughed at a glimpse of girls knickers. I just can't see it, and if they did, and were told to stop, they would.

hatsybatsy · 17/06/2014 12:08

snort at headstands and cartwheels being a h&s issue.

so we should make them wear shorts and then actually not let them do anything 'dangerous'! shall we just cancel childhood altogether?

mum2bubble · 17/06/2014 12:25

sorry - I don't think girls or boys should be showing their pants (unwittingly or otherwise). If my dd wears a dress or skirt she always has shorts or leggings under.

YouTheCat · 17/06/2014 13:19

Losing, by your logic I am also right because I work in a school and have done for 12 years.

There is nothing wrong with a flash of clothing whilst playing. Not a thing.

hatsybatsy · 17/06/2014 13:21

wow. people genuinely always put shorts under a dress? even in mid summer?? really???

what about swimming costumes? are they ok or are they too immodest?

losingmybelt · 17/06/2014 13:23

Johnfarley, I'm amazed that your school still has monkey bars.... most schools ban them, which is a shame.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 17/06/2014 13:26

Do you know...I can't stand them. They make me feel totally sick.

She loves them though, sigh.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 17/06/2014 13:27

NB. It's the upside downness that makes me feel sick - not the glimpses of knickers!

Icimoi · 17/06/2014 13:33

I feel very sorry for girls who feel they are expected to wear pants and shorts under summer dresses, especially in hot weather. Why is this apparently an expectation, and when does it stop? After all, to the best of my knowledge teenagers and women don't do this normally?

Icimoi · 17/06/2014 13:35

sorry - I don't think girls or boys should be showing their pants (unwittingly or otherwise). If my dd wears a dress or skirt she always has shorts or leggings under.

mum2bubble: do you wear shorts or leggings under dresses and skirts? If not, why not?

mum2bubble · 17/06/2014 14:07

Icimoi I wear shorts or jeans - I hardly ever wear skirts or dresses. But then I'm not an active child who spends a good deal of time upside down. Also, dd's school is right by the sea, and on lovely days like today she just takes off her summer dress and is ready for the beach with shorts and a vest. She has never complained once that she has been uncomfortable, too hot etc etc. And she is a very vocal and headstrong child.

Icimoi · 17/06/2014 14:09

A further thought: turn up at Queen's Club now, or Wimbledon in a week or two, and you will see loads of grown women flashing their knickers. No-one will turn a hair. If a male spectator saw fit to start pointing and laughing, he would be asked to leave - if he hadn't already been frogmarched out by the other male spectators.

Why is it different for 7 year olds?

hatsybatsy · 17/06/2014 14:11

but she's 6 - she thinks it's normal. You are the adult in this situation and you have decided for her that she should always cover her knowckers in case anyone accidentally sees them.

your comment about the beach makes no sense - age 6, she'd be ready for the beach if you whipped her school dress off and she ran around in her knickers. she would,honestly......

mum2bubble · 17/06/2014 14:17

my dd is 8 and doesn't want to wear just her pants on the beach - I've tried, but she refuses.

BomChickaMeowMeow · 17/06/2014 14:19

The boys should have been bollocked for laughing at girls showing their knickers doing handstands.

Completely wrong that girls should have to cover up at this age.