Oh fucking hell

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The two and a half yr old keeps saying this.

I thought it was that when he said it (in context!) last night, but he's just said it again while looking for a toy.

'Wheres my train? Oh fucking hell, I've lost it'.

Oh fucking hell. What do I do, other than curb by potty mouth and try to ignore it?

DD (4) said toe the other day 'what the fucking hell do you think you're doing?' So I think if anyone is being abused it ain't her...

Toe? To me...

Ooh we've got a WUM

TrueGent sometimes children overhear, it doesn't even have to be you swearing. So,I hope when your kids do swear you will have your smelling salts handy, you're going to need them.

Ahh TrueGent is one of those parents I aspired to be... then I actually had children and now I can't be fucking bothered

I was in the car with my mum and my dts (2.7yrs) the other day when somebody really badly cut her up on a roundabout and she had to do an emergency stop and accidentally let slip a 'what the fuck' -dts have now taken to shouting 'a duck, a duck' whenever we go round a roundabout. Thank god for speech delay

No one is talking about 'bellowing at little ones'.

my children have never sworn yet

Dd (3) though loves to play hide and seek and was quite bossy about it shouting instructions of who was to hide etc. all fine apart from when she regularly shouted until recently 'I hide mummy - you cunt' always with a pointy finger and determined look on her face.

I taught her to say 'you do 1,2,3'.

gertiegusset - no, I know they weren't talking about bellowing at little ones. I mentioned that to explain my disapproval of swearing in front of them. It's more a general aversion to adults not thinking before they speak/react in front of them.

I'm not all for "goo-goo gaga" and talking down to children, far from it - but I do think we should all try to control ourselves a bit more than appears to be the case.

And again, how much did you want to bet?

I don't bet with money, it's common.
Having grown up in an army family I though gambling was disapproved of in the forces.

I have little to zero respect for people that display anger and aggression in situations that, frankly, don't warrant it - with or without children.

TrueGent, I tried to carry on feeling amused by your objections, but this post has somehow stopped me in my tracks and I can now only feel a bit sad. It must be lonely, frustrating and disappointing for you to have such exacting standards in the face of inevitable human fallibility, and to reject people so easily ("yours are clearly the sort of children I have to try to keep mine from when they start school. How very common").

I think in many ways your outrage may be due to misunderstanding (there is a world of difference between scaring and intimidating a child - with or without "swear" words - and a parent uttering a word some people consider a bit naughty, which is later repeated by a totally undistressed and well-loved child). But, in any case, I'm sorry that the things which amuse us have distressed you.

I think it's likely that you'd be happier if you stopped spending time on the thread. So much objecting generally tends to make people less happy. You won't be able to change the situation, but you can choose not to expose yourself to things which make you feel irate. All the best to you.

TRUEGENT you arent actually doing your kids any favours by shielding them from this normal figure of speach.

When i was a child my parents never swore unless they dropped the kettle. However I have four siblings and each one of those use 'fucking' as an adjective. ie sit on the fucking chair.

I find that a lazy, when there are so many other adjectives to use. However i have been known to slip out with a few profanities and my DD doesnt swear, not every day, not every week or even every month.

AND its hillarious when she does because its so out of character for her.

The utopian world you want your kids to live in doesnt exist. If my dd gets called names (she is 10 by the way) Id much rather she understands the context so she can say ... get over yourself... or wether its more serious bullying.. depending on the severity of the word or the nastiness of it.

if your child gets called a name, that they dont understand they are more likely to run to a teacher, rather than deal with it themselves. dont you want to bring up a well rounded individual?

your attitude is akin to refusing to warn your children about speeding motorists who dont pay attention to small children becuase ALL motorists SHOULD pay attention all of the time. the first time they meet a speeding motorist they will be squished....not everyone plays by the rules.

lifesavingnoodles - no, you're right there is no utopian world.

This world has bullies, abusers, rapists, murderers, people that pick their nose, people that lie, people that cheat, people that let others down and so on.

But that doesn't mean it's okay for us to swear in front of our children.

My attitude is not akin to refusing to warn children about speeding motorists - rather, it's akin to not speeding myself, least of all when I have children in the car.

Whereas your attitude is actually the equivalent of knocking a child over, or bullying one, or abusing one, or raping ones, or murdering one etc etc, in the belief that the have been better prepared for the world.

We have a responsibility to look after our children and yes, that means, hiding them from things until they are old enough to understand and deal with them. A parent unconsciously talking as though in the company of adults, when all they have with them is a toddler, shows that the parent doesn't understand that responsibility, or doesn't care enough about it simply to refrain from swearing now and then.

How you behave in front of your children either matters to you, or it doesn't. It really is that simple.

Truegent I think you swooped into judge without really understanding what the thread was about. No one on here has said they below and swear at their children.
My Sis told me that someone cut her up in traffic the other day and before she could react my DN tutted and called him a dickhead.
Also coming from a Caribbean family we have a way of what we call cussing, and I often her my niece telling my nephew to "gwan si dung" or go and sit down, cracks me up everytime.

I do wish the fucking mansplainer in his JUDGEYCOCKTWATPANTS hadn't killed what was really just a rather funny and lighthearted thread.

Now now Haitekokpins it's a good thing that he did come along to set us straight, because Lord alone knows what us wimmns would get upto unsupervised. I for one and glad he set us straight.
Women know your limits!!!

TrueGent your absolutely certainty that your children will never swear is really quite funny, have you heard of rebelling? I may have to keep my teenagers away from your tear away teens, you never can tell.

truegent does your child not know about war? i teach my child about wars but i dont send her off to fight them.

your misery is directed at the wrong people. we are on her mortified that our little darlings have sworn.

People like my siblings, as i mentioned before, use fuck as an adjective and therefore would NOT be mortified enough to find it hillarious.

THEY are the people you should be directing your vitriol at, not us

Whereas your attitude is actually the equivalent of knocking a child over, or bullying one, or abusing one, or raping ones, or murdering one etc etc, in the belief that the have been better prepared for the world.

Do you have any idea at all how offensive that is?

Actually I think you probably do.

Truegent.... how do people that pick their nose even begin to belong in the same category as bullies, abusers, rapists and murderers?

Please... this was a light-hearted thread. It's had me crying with laughter. It is funny.

Wow TrueGent ! I am mightily impressed by the size of your goady stick.

I, for one, am proud that there is a little enclave of children in one particular US state who now use the phrases "shut your gob" and "you're doing my head in" to ther school colleagues with alarming regularity.

reading this I feel like I must have had a lucky escape. DS is 3.5 and has never said fuck or fucking hell. Mind you I think he might have said 'fuck's sake' once or twice when younger but we ignored it.

Surprising really as I say 'fucking fuck bollocks and fuck' a lot.

He does say 'Jesus' all the time though.

ha ha - Truegent has really made me chuckle.

I think I might know TrueGent, there do seem to be a lot of sanctimonious ex-low ranking army officers around my neck of the woods and I've got one in particular in mind

On a lighter note a favourite story of my MIL is how having moved from Germany to Wales her youngest son, then aged 5, came home from school horrified that his classmates has been swearing in Welsh. She asked him what they'd said that was so rude and he replied, putting on a strong fake-welsh accent, 'bloody hell'!

Let's not fight. Everybody sing:

War, huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, oh hoh, oh
War huh yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, say it again y'all
War, huh good God
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, listen to me