put my dog to sleep?

[booksandchoc]

I am being unreasonable, I feel terrible and I deserve whatever flaming I get.

I've made an appointment to get my little dog put to sleep. I'm tried to rehome him, but all the rescues around here are full, I spoke to the dog warden and he advised in our situation to get him pts.

We got him 4 years ago when he was 2, an elderly acquaintance had him a few months but couldn't cope with him, so we stupidly took him on without knowing his history.

He is aggressive to other dogs, every other dog, he has no recall, he barks constantly whenever we leave him in the house and now he has started snapping at DD. I don't know what else to do .

Selct, OP hasn't made mistakes. She's done the equivalent of closing her eyes, sticking her fingers in her ears and singing "lalalalala"

She's tried nothing

And again, unless you personally have not only seen this dog, but happen to be a qualified pet behaviourist, then you do not know how much time or management helping this dog would take. No-one does because up until now, nothing has been done to try and help this dog.

Poor upset woman. But its the dog who has to die. My sympathies for him. And she'll survive.

Maybe people should get a collectio n for petrol money and go to scotland to collect thedog and rehome it just a thought sitting behind a screen tapping away is wasting time, this woman isnt wringing her dogs neck it is geting euthanized for aggression not because she cant be arsed to look after it she has had it for 4 years, if the dog bit her child or killed her child would you all be saying the same

In fact if OP wants to PM me and is willing, she can bring the dog to me, so I can asses it. If I think I would be able to manage it's behaviour around my own dogs, then I will take it on.

Are you going to take the dog, D0oinMeCleanin? Or you, Lady Nexus? Of course not; it's so easy to berate its owner over the internet.

Agreeing with most other people that it's the right decision - most importantly for your DD's safety, but also for your dog. You've obviously tried so hard to help it so don't feel too bad that you couldn't. I hope your last few hours together are happy.

dooin, u wont be able to manage it, and I'm certainly not passing my dog onto you to be terrified by your dog's. I don't care how much behavioural therapy or whatever you can do, my dog will be terrified and suffer immensely. I have not sat around doing nothing. you know nothing about me or my dog so stop being a keyboard warrior. Btw I did say why he was snapping at DD, because we were playing with her.

Select no I'm not in a position to take the poor dog from the op.

That would be because I have a dog of my own, whose issues I knew had to be sorted out the second I has my positive test. Because it would be grossly unfair to a child and untrained dog not to do so.

I'll say it again. The op could see this coming. The dog had behavioural issues and she did nothing but a brief half hearted attempt at using a halti, which as pp mentioned is not a cure all. She mentioned nothing on this post that would have ever ever helped that dog or kept her daughter safe.

So no, I won't shut the fuck up. I can understand if maybe some posters have guilt issues over this themselves trying to defend ops decision even if it is lazy.

I'll never say pts is wrong, it isn't. It's very right for some situations.

Op's last post says everything...

Why did you even so Ainu op, you obviously think your not.

Are you all still going to defend her now she has refused and turned down an actual offer of help from someone who is experienced?

Because her dogs so terrified of other dogs that she won't accept a kind offer because it may upset her dog ( and I'm sure d0oin would take precautions) but still did fuck all to help with that problem it for four years!

Playing how? What were the circumstances around the snap, what was the dogs body language leading upto it? It could have misguided play, an attempt to join in or you could have missed sign of stress. Unless you contact a behaviourist, you'll never know.

And would it not be fairer to shut the dog in another room when you play, rather than end it's life?

Have you even contacted any behaviourists for advise?

What exactly have you done that counts as trying hard?

Oh and just for the record, I wouldn't have kept your dog if I thought it would be terrified by mine, as I said, I'd only have taken it in if I thought I'd be able to manage it's behaviour. I have a lot of hands on experience with dog aggressive and fear aggressive dogs and I have qualified behaviourists and rescue contacts to call on if I need support.

Well come on then?

The op is sooo doing the right thing right? Had done everything she can because she loves her poor pooch so much!

So why the fuck is she refusing the help offered?

Guilt issues what are you on about .

I'm so sorry booksandchoc about the flaming you are now receiving. The start of this thread was so positive. Please don't listen to some of the angry and upsetting posts. Yes they may have a point but you have to do what you feel is right. Only you know your dog and although it's very hard, I think pts is the right way to go. You have done everything you could afford and manage and have tried many different options.

My sister rescued a dog. He had issues. They took him to classes and paid for a behaviour session. They learned that he believed he was alpha dog, and one step above their ds who was about 13. They decided that ds had to feed him, keep the food bowl high until the dog was well behaved etc, to train the dog that their ds was actually top dog. Eventually ds's friend stepped over the dog (he was lying in the doorway) and the dog took a chunk out of his friend's leg needing several stitches. He was fine, but it was a horrible shock. The dog had to be pts. The training was going well, but they hadn't accounted for the fact that the dog may feel 'above' their ds's friends.

It's all very well saying the op has to try as many avenues as possible, but she has to think of her dd and time may be running out. 2 is very much younger and smaller than a 13 year old boy and if she thinks her dd is in danger, the dog has to be pts.

I hope it goes well OP. I'll be thinking of you. You will hopefully feel a sense of relief once you know your dd is safe.

Farewell pp just offered to assess and possibly take on ops dog.

Op said no way.

How is that doing everything she can? The cost of petrol would probably be less than putting the dog to sleep!

And if you're in Scotland have you tried any North england rescues? It might be a trek, but I know we have a lot more rescues up here than you do in Scotland.

Adopt a Dog North East, is run by a mum and daughter, who are very experienced. The daughter happens to be a behaviourist. They'd be my first port of call in your position.

OP - if you're in Central scotland I can give you the name of a behavioural specialist who will be covered by your insurance if your vet refers you .

My insurance pays for it even though behavioural consultations aren't covered.

If you PM me I'll pass on the details.

Ops made it clear she isn't interested in help or advice that mean she doesn't have to put her dog down.

She just wants everyone to make her feel better about putting her dog down because she can't be bothered with trying to help him.

Well said LadyNexus!

It's just the fact that time might be running out that's bothering me LadyNexus. I know I'm probably overthinking it, but every moment the dog is in the house with her dd it's a risk. It might take a week before they can arrange for the dog to be handed over. And the OP does have a genuine concern that placing her dog in a house with other dogs will just stress him out even more. The OP knows her dog better than anyone on here and she is genuinely worried for her dd.

She's tried nothing

DooinMeCleaning, either read the thread properly, or shut up. Coming into the last few posts of a long thread without actually reading or taking onboard all that has been said is not just useless, it's trolling.

(You are the last person I'd entrust a stressed-out dog to, BTW.)

Travelled why don't you read D0oins posts properly yourself?

She has said that nothing op has done would in anyway help her dog, at all.

And I among others agree with her.

I could understand that farewell, but no one knows how long it would have taken.

It could have been done in a day or two for all we know.

It's the fact op would not even consider it for a second that I think shows how much she actually can be asked to do for this dog.

There's also a facebook forum dedicated to helping dogs like yours in the North East and Scotland. There's Canine Rescue North East or Rescue Dog Forum North East UK. Both are regularly posted on by rescues, fosterers and behaviourists. Both cover Scotland.

If you post your situation on there they may be able to find a dog/child free foster placement with rescue back up.

I think it's probably taken her a lot of time and consideration to get to this point, to realise that actually her dd isn't safe and that something has to be done. She's spent hours trying to find a rescue place to take the dog. Look, none of us can put ourselves in her shoes but it does seem as though she hasn't taken the decision lightly. The dog is booked in now and I expect she will still beat herself up over it, but her dd's safety is much more important. Sorry, but it is.

I was curious at your mention of the doghouse and I found your post in there from 2011. You were given some great advice, including using a muzzle and seek out a new behaviouralist.

It's almost 3 years since you were given that advice.