To think that it is very unfair, to pick someone up on spelling or grammar, just because you disagree with what they are saying.

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I posted recently on a ongoing topic in this section, I was picked up for my "appalling" grammar, my use of punctuation and for my sentence construction. I noticed that when my opinion changed , strangely enough my grammar or incorrect use of exclamation marks was not picked up upon. I have noticed that this happened on other threads as well. I think this is wrong for two reasons, the first being that it is a kind of bullying, intimating that because someone struggles with spelling, punctuation or correct sentence construction, that there are thick, therefore their argument or view point does not stand up. The other point it is very unfair to pick people up who have not benefited from higher education, or in my case not even education post GCSE'S, people need to realise this and accept that they have been fortunate to have been able to access higher education, but they need to give people like me some slack over my poor grammar or sentence construction.

I would pick you up on an OVERLONG TITLE

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Yes I was on that thread, if it is indeed the one I'm thinking of.

People were picking you up on it (although my recollection is in fact singular, one poster but whatever) due to the content of your posts and as part of their disagreement with your attitude and comments they found offensive.
That actually the majority of posters disagreed with.

So this thread is disingenuous in context and content.
However it will probably go the same way as the other similar threads about SPaG.

I find it "fucking rude" when people can't be bothered to use apostrophes. Don't you Grocklebox?

So glad I'm not the only one who thinks this!

It's even worse when a several posters all gang together dissing the OP's spelling/grammar. How rude!

There's a time and a place for such corrections and it's not on a forum where many people are using phones.

Next!

No, I don't. But you go ahead and froth about it, I don't mind at all.

And it's a little g in grocklebox, not a capital G. I'll forgive you this once though.

It's just pathetic.

Anyone who picks up on others spelling on a chat forum is pathetic.

My writing is not the best and it is made worse when using the mobile. Fiddly to edit and for some reason adds capitals in the middle of a sentence. I can understand what it says but it's not correct.

What is really funny is when someone pulls you up on it and their post is also incorrect. No one knows if someone has a reason for their poor English or typing and it might put someone off who is reading and wanting help posting as they are worried they will ripped a new arsehole.

I wouldn't pick another poster up on SPaG, particularly if they have only made an error which is obviously a "slip of the fat typing finger". I can spell and punctuate, but I'm a dreadful typist. I am also conscious of the fact that posters might have dyslexia, or posting in the middle of a crisis.

I'll be truthful though, consistently poor grammar does devalue a poster's comments for me, and I'm afraid I feel the same in real life. I mean examples such as using "should of" instead of "should have". Rightly or wrongly, it just strikes me as lazy thinking and listening, and is often indicative of a lack of reading which also makes me judge people.

I don't correct other posters' spelling and grammar but I don't particularly mind it when I see it - very rarely compared with other sites btw - on here. I am fed up with everyone being oversensitive over every single tiny little thing. I hate the need to be endlessly fluffy all the fucking time.

I think it is helpful to be corrected. I would welcome corrections if made with courtesy.

I only comment when people say how important it is to be able to send children to independant and grammer schools. I just can't resist it, sorry.

But then, the message you're sending, duckworth, is 'I know some people are less bright/less educated/more disabled than me, but I'd rather judge them than accommodate them

I respect people who, when they recognise the fact that they have a problem, do something about it, rather than rant that others should just be more accommodating.

There should be a meeting in the middle. I accept that people should do their best to accommodate others, but there does need to be some effort from the other side too.

PS. I'm not sure why you are introducing disability into a discussion that does not include that issue. If you feel your arguments about the matter under discussion are not strong enough without the need to straw-man, perhaps you should steer away from this debate?

I have also got into the habit of posting again if I see an error or the phone has autocorrected something just to make sure people know I know. It's something which annoys me when reading other threads but I still do it even though it's obvious and you can understand what I have wrote in the first post.

Ikea

I am going to start studying my 2nd degree ( in a Swedish which is a language I only startedto learn 3 years ago

This does raise the question as to why you would start another language if you haven't yet mastered the first one yet? Surely that would be a better use of your time?

What makes you think people aren't doing anything, though?

You can't know how much effort people put in.

I didn't raise disability as an issue (your reading comprehension needs work), but it's obviously relevant, isn't it? Because you can't know whether someone's lousy SPAG is the result of that or not, unless they mention it.

You did raise it, please see my quote from your post which quite clearly demonstrates that you did.

Op has not stated any SN and has attributed her poor SPAG to her low standard of education. I have pointed out that there are many things she could do to improve that level of education.

I agree that the world could be more accommodating, but there does need to be effort made from both sides.

Duckworth I have spent years and years and years studying English. I have English GCSEs at B/C, my mumis a special needs teacher and I have had extra lessons and special teachers from a very young age. My poor written English skills are not due to lack of trying, if I I believed there was a way for me to learn the skills I am lacking I would work very hard to improve my skills but nothing has worked so rather than just keep trying and failing I would rather concentrate on things I am good at.

Disability has been mentioned because dyslexia is a specific learning disability, do you think you can judge who does and who doesn't have a learning disability or do you feel that people who's brains learn in a different way to you should be judged and not progress in their life because they happen to not be able to spell?

Op has not stated any SN and has attributed her poor SPAG to her low standard of education. I have pointed out that there are many things she could do to improve that level of education.

People shouldn't have to state they have SNs and I have no time in my busy schedule to further my education to improve my English when using a chat forum. In RL if something important I would proof read and correct it like most people would.