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To think the School overreacted in Expelling Pupil and calling Police for a stunt,when a "bollocking would have been enough".

941 replies

smokepole · 28/05/2014 09:57

Jacob Dowdle, a year 13 Pupil at Altrincham Grammar school on the last day of term May 16, put a paper plate with whipped cream in to his year heads face.

This was a very "Stupid" thing to do, but no harm was meant or injury caused yet the school called the Police and summary expelled him. The teacher was seeking a prosecution for the stunt, when she was not injured The teacher although upset , should have had the grace to except that it was a poor stunt , ( or like most teachers on the last day taken it on the chin as overexcited students behaviour).

OP posts:
EvilTwins · 28/05/2014 10:33

Pumpkin - the telegraph did at least crop the photo to remove the half-drunk pint. Daily Fail has the whole pic.

MrsJoeDolan · 28/05/2014 10:34

Well done HT for taking an appropriate stand.

Goblinchild · 28/05/2014 10:35

Perhaps she should just have kneed him in the balls as many of us would have done if assaulted unexpectedly.

Effic · 28/05/2014 10:37

This is not a prank! This is a calculated act meant to cause maximum humiliation to another human being. Poor teacher :(

bauhausfan · 28/05/2014 10:38

He committed assault and then further humiliated a female teacher (significant as he is probably physically bigger than her) by posting this assault on the web. How dare he! It is revolting and bullying behaviour. The school have done the right thing. He was lucky to go to a great school like that and he took the piss. Arrogant little sod. Now he needs to pay the price. If he didn't have his wings clipped now, no doubt he'd be the type to do nasty things to female colleagues then claim it was a 'joke'.

Morgause · 28/05/2014 10:38

Deserved all he got odious little sod.

CheeseandGherkins · 28/05/2014 10:39

I think the right thing was done. At that age the boy/man should have known better. What a really thoughtless thing to do and premeditated. It wasn't just a stunt in my opinion. Then for it to be put on facebook, well, that tells you exactly what was going through his head and it certainly wasn't remorse...

Pagwatch · 28/05/2014 10:39

The fact that he seems to have run away doesn't reflect well does it.

If my son did this I would be mortified rather than bleating to the press.

CuntCourtIsInSession · 28/05/2014 10:42

What a prick. He absolutely should have known better, and deserved everything he got. And more.

BreeWannabe · 28/05/2014 10:42

I'm a teacher. If ANY pupil did this to me, I would want them charged with assault. It makes no difference if its a paper plate or not, nor what the intent of the action is. At work teachers deserve the same as everyone else: to not be touched, humiliated or assaulted in any way.

OP: so I assume if this happened to you at your work, you'd be ok with it?

Disgraceful.

EvilTwins · 28/05/2014 10:42

I've read two articles about it and neither have comment from his parents - it's all him. I assumed his parents probably were mortified... Have you read one where they've commented, pag?

Lemonsole · 28/05/2014 10:43

Good for the school and for the HT.

I suspect that he won't have learnt from it, though, given his total gas lighting of the whole incident. Poster-boy victim for the Daily Mail Hmm

AICM · 28/05/2014 10:44

Just watched the video.
Smokepole I'm appalled you think that violence towards women is so acceptable!

Without warning he dove a CHINA plate so hard into her face he smashed to pieces it on here skull!

Please come back and post and tell us you didn't realise the full facts.

SnapeAndLily · 28/05/2014 10:45

It looks like Jason Manford is backing the appeal to reverse the exclusion. Twat.

LIZS · 28/05/2014 10:45

There may also be a history of behaviour which has contributed to the expulsion .

whatchatalkinboutwillis · 28/05/2014 10:45

It wasn't him who posted it to the internet. One of his mates filmed and uploaded it. Just clearing that up.

AICM · 28/05/2014 10:45

Drove not dove

BreeWannabe · 28/05/2014 10:46

And to those saying that his age makes a difference: it doesn't. Yes, it makes it worse that he's older and the punishment should be worse, but if this happened to me at work, I would want police involvement regardless of age of child (the only exception would be if the pupil had serious additional support needs, in which case I'd raise a grievance with my employer for not doing enough to protect me).
Doesn't matter whether I was injured or not. No one has a right to lay a finger on me at work, just as teachers should never lay a finger on pupils.

Ooh this has would me up :D

Pagwatch · 28/05/2014 10:47

No, no Evil - sorry, my comments do read like that.

I sort of jumbled two thoughts together. I would be mortified that he threw the plate, ran away and then stuck it on Facebook. I would be bloody furious at the press [sadface] whining.

whatchatalkinboutwillis · 28/05/2014 10:47

And also if you read the articles it does say that it was a paper plate - not china.

EvilTwins · 28/05/2014 10:48

Having watched the video there is no way this wasn't premeditated, and the videoing was also clearly planned.

From what I've read, there was a history between the boy and the teacher - he says something like "she had lost her sense of humour where is comes to me" so this was deliberate, not just a prank on whoever happened to come through the door.

dawndonnaagain · 28/05/2014 10:49

Is it a case of the school and teacher taking themselves to (sic) seriously
No, if he broke a plate on her head, that is dangerous, and somebody said it was shaving foam. If that had been me, I would be in hospital as I am allergic to many of the soaps they use in shaving foams.
They are taking it as seriously as they should.

OddBoots · 28/05/2014 10:49

The school absolutely did the right thing, there is no way that is treatment anyone should accept at work, it's not taking themselves too seriously to expect not to be assaulted.

EvilTwins · 28/05/2014 10:50

whatchalk - watch the video. Paper plates do not behave like that.

bauhausfan · 28/05/2014 10:50

I am assuming that his parents are the ones behind this story coming out in the media (complete with obligatory 'sad face'). This would lead me to believe that they don't think what he did was bad at all and that he has been treated unfairly. This would lead me further to the belief that the school were right to get the police involved.

For those who don't know, this school is a really good grammar (state funded) and places are highly sought after. He was lucky to have been a pupil there in the first place but obviously had no gratitude or respect for his teachers.

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