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AIBU?

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Am I interfering and wanting things done 'my way' or is dh being unreasonable?

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Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 18:39

I feel as though dh doesn't do his fair share at home. We often argue over it. He feels hard done by as due to the constant arguments he feels pushed into doing more than he thinks he should. I still feel as though things aren't fair and that I am having to constantly battle to even get to that point (not fair, but fairer than they would be if I didn't battle)
DH works hard, he works from home so is here a lot. I am a SAHM to 3 children, 2 at school and one whirlwind toddler.
I do all the housework, all the washing, all the cooking, all the homework at the weekends, all the organising etc. DH baths the kids and puts them to bed most nights (except youngest who is still bf), plus he makes me a cup of tea every morning when the alarm goes off and loads the dishwasher on the occasional evening.
I've asked many a time for him to cook just one meal a week, at the weekend as I don't like cooking and am fed up of it 7 days a week. It's happened once this year I think. If I want a lie in, I have to tell him the night before, wake up first with the kids and wake him up repeatedly to remind him to get up etc. if he wants a lie in, he just doesn't get up and then saunters downstairs a couple of hours after I'm up saying 'thanks for the lie in'
Anyway, today he said he wanted a couple of hours to do some eBay stuff. I said fine, he could have the morning to do that, I would sort the kids etc as long as after lunch (we went out for lunch) he would look after the kids so I could sort out the back log of washing. He said fine. He had his eBay time, we went out for lunch. As we were finishing lunch he said 'what shall we do this afternoon?' I said he'd promised to watch the kids while I did stuff, he said 'oh yes I'd forgotten, well you could do that later, shall we go to the park first?' I said no as it was gone 3pm and we didn't have enough time to fit both in. He was sarky about that but agreed. We got home about 4, I've been sorting the house and he's been watching the kids. They eat tea at 5/5.30 usually, to get to bed for 7.30. I didn't want to nag so left it till I was sure he'd forgotten their tea befor I mentioned it at 5.45... Just said its getting quite late for tea for the kids? He was surprised that I wasn't making tea. I reminded him that he agreed to watch the kids for a couple of hours and he said that he was watching them, but didn't realise that included making tea? I asked him if he could please make something quickly as it was getting late. (Imagining beans on toast, something quick).
Go back to kitchen at 6.15 and he is chopping carrots to begin making a cooked meal. I said something about it being a bit late to start a big meal, which won't be ready for at least half an hour and mentioned that I would have thought beans on toast would be better and he's got the massive arse with me that I expect him to do things 'exactly as I would' and won't let him just get on with things his way.
I feel like I can't win. That's exactly why I waited till later to remind him about dinner as I wanted to give him a chance to do it his way, but he didn't do it at all! If I don't say anything, nothing gets done, if I do say something then I'm nagging and wanting everything done 'my way'
Surely wanting our children fed at a reasonable time is not ott?
Sorry this is so long. DH is really lovely in other ways, he's brilliant with the kids in terms of playing with them and doing fun things together. He loves family time and days out together, he works very hard and I could spend every last penny of what he earns on myself and he wouldn't say a word. He's great with being flexible during the week with switching his working hours to allow the kids to do various activities when I can't be in two places at once.
I feel very confused. I veer between thinking that I am too harsh on him and should chill out so we stop the constant bickering and thinking that he takes the piss and I am not harsh enough!

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CoffeeTea103 · 26/05/2014 18:44

Yes I do think you are being too hard on him. He is working and still seems to do evening time with them. You have two kids at school as well.

Hoppinggreen · 26/05/2014 18:45

Purely from what you have written here I am with your husband on this one, sorry

HippyPottyMouth · 26/05/2014 18:48

I'm with you. He doesn't bloody think. He considers thinking to be your job, along with housework and childcare. Mine is the same, I don't have the answer but I feel your pain.

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 18:50

Ok. I am surprised, but willing to accept if I am wrong.
I just honestly thought that I should not have to push so hard to even get 2 hours off looking after the kids at the weekend to do housework.
I hoped that I would get one night off cooking at the weekend.
That I wouldn't have to ask for every little bit if help such as bath the kids. I still have to ask every night, if I didn't ask he wouldn't do it. It's just that I know this is one thing he will do without an argument so I do ask every night. Where I don't ask about the cooking, or clearing up after himself or a lie in very often at all as these will cause an argument.
I feel as though I don't get a break I suppose.

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WolfAndMud · 26/05/2014 18:50

YABU.

wowfudge · 26/05/2014 18:51

You asked him to watch the kids with no mention of cooking their tea. If you'd asked to do that and he hadn't got round to it, then that's one thing.

I agree it's very irritating to have to spell out every last task though.

WolfAndMud · 26/05/2014 18:53

It's not the volume, if I were about to make dinner and DH came in and said 'why this, why not that, that is better' I wouldn't bother my arse. If you want someone to do something, don't give them a fucking critique when they do.

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 18:53

He also eats the meal I cook every single day ever at 5.30 though, so he should know that its tea time and therefore food needs making?

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DennyDifferent · 26/05/2014 18:54

I understand that its really annoying for you, but I think you have to weigh up the friction it will cause if you do things he perceives as "micro-managing" against what the negative outcome would be if you let him get on with it. For example, he is now annoyed with you and you feel like you cant win, after offering your opinion on his choice of dinner. If you hadn't said anything, the kids would have still been fed, he would probably have noticed by bed time that they had eaten too late and then might have thought, oh next time I wont cook such a big meal so late. Maybe.

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/05/2014 18:56

"He feels hard done by ... I do all the housework, all the washing, all the cooking, all the homework at the weekends, all the organising etc. DH baths the kids and puts them to bed most nights (except youngest who is still bf), plus he makes me a cup of tea every morning when the alarm goes off and loads the dishwasher on the occasional evening."

DH is being unreasonable.

He works from home, you are a SAHM "to 3 children, 2 at school and one whirlwind toddler." SAHM (mother), not SAHS (skivvy). You are working, just your primary role (mother) is unpaid. Your being a SAHM is what allows him to do paid work, if you weren't a SAHM he's either have to do that job or pay someone else to do it. You are both adults, he is not your child, therefore caring for him is not part of your job description. He is your co-parent and cohabitee. He needs to get his finger out and start taking his role as parent and husband more seriously, and start contributing his time and not just his income.

I'd be so pissed off about the lie-in situation.

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 18:57

I do accept what you're saying, that it is annoying for someone to tell you what you are doing is wrong. I wish I didn't react like that. I'm too worried of ill effects on the children to stop myself I thnk. Most things I jump in on are if they haven't got sun cream on, or they haven't been fed or they aren't dressed properly (has been known to take toddler out with no shoes or coat in December for example), or no food packed for kids for day out (they have allergies) etc
I feel as though if I don't jump in and ask him to do it differently that they will suffer...

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LemonBreeland · 26/05/2014 18:59

YANBU in that I agree he should do more. My dh works 6 days a week, long hours and still makes some meals. I ddo not think you should have to ask him to help out as much.

YABU in that you weren't clear about wanting him to feed the dc. And you weren't happy about what he decided to make, I sympathise wth this as my dh would do similar, making something that took ages when it is too late (although my dh could take 40 mins to make beans on toast). I would also get annoyed with him making the wrong thing, but I know that I meed to back off in cases like that.

ThingsThatShine · 26/05/2014 18:59

I think he is being a but U and should use more initiative and take more responsibility

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 26/05/2014 19:00

I was sort of on your side, OP... until you did the martyr-y/mind-gamey let-him-miss-the-deadline kids' tea thing. I wouldn't put up with that from you at all, I'd certainly think less of you for doing that, it's pathetic and you don't do that to a partner.

You and your husband need to sit down and work out the division of chores. Two of your children are in school for much of the day so it's understandable that the lion's share of chores would be done by you. If you don't think that's fair then you need to have a conversation.

Regarding the cooking, if neither of you likes to do it then batch-cook and pop portions in the freezer, that's what I do as my husband doesn't cook.

redskyatnight · 26/05/2014 19:02

I think if he gets up first and makes you a cup of tea, works all day and then baths the DC at night, then that's a reasonable share for weekdays.

I agree you should share more at weekends.

I think YABU to expect him to spontaneously realise that he should cook tea when you always do it, and also BU for criticising the way he did it.

TheDudess · 26/05/2014 19:02

I can't believe some people think YABU!

Your his wife and the kids mum, not their skivvy.

It sounds like you have a good balance elsewhere but this one area needs a bit of work. Can you have a sit down chat with him later in the week when you're both less tired abs irritated?

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 19:05

I definitely agree that the bulk of household chores should be done by me during the week. I am totally happy with that. The things I feel resentful over are the chores and organising of the weekend and clearing up after dh. There's a lot of cooking, meal planning and making, washing, clearing up mess that needs doing every weekend and I do all of it while dh either plays or chills out. He'd be really happy if I said 'let's go the park this morning' and we all went and had fun, but wouldn't think to take the kids by himself if I had stuff to do and would be grumpy about it if I asked him to as its hard work when you're in charge rather than me being there to worry about the practical things so he can just enjoy it iyswim

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DennyDifferent · 26/05/2014 19:07

I think that if you "let" him get it wrong he will learn from his mistakes and not make them again in future. If you tell him about his mistakes he will get in a huff about it and instead of thinking, "Yes a coat in winter is a good idea" he will be thinking, "she's having a go again...
A shame these things aren't just obvious to him but they're not and nagging (as it will be perceived by him) will not help them become obvious, it hasn't so far.

SmiteYouWithThunderbolts · 26/05/2014 19:07

The lie-in situation would drive me nuts on its own.

He certainly doesn't sound like a bad guy, maybe just a bit... I dunno, I don't want to say thoughtless, but maybe lacking in initiative when it comes to household stuff.

Thinking about it, he sounds a lot like my DH. He's lovely, loves romping round with the kids, never objects if I ask him to do houseworky stuff, and brings me a cuppa every morning without fail. However, if stuff needs doing, I have to be very precise about what is required, or it won't get done. There is no room for leaving him to figure it out by himself, believe me, I've tried.

One night earlier this month, I was ill. DH came in from work and without a moment's hesitation, packed me off to bed for a rest. I dozed off and woke at 7pm as the kids were fussing about going to bed. I got up to investigate and it transpired that he hadn't given them any dinner. Not maliciously; he just didn't realise that I hadn't already fed them (it was 4:30pm when he got home and sent me to bed). I was half flabbergasted that he hadn't figured out that no, they wouldn't have had dinner by 4:30pm (they always eat at 6pm). He maintains to this day that if I had said "can you give the kids some dinner at 6pm?", he would have done so with no problem. But I didn't tell him, so he didn't do it.

I have hundreds of examples like that.

Anyway! YABU and YANBU. It IS massively frustrating to have to micro-manage someone in this manner, but unless you really think he's being manipulative or entitled (which my DH certainly isn't, just a bit hopeless!) then you just have to find a way together to get all the stuff done without either of you feeling put upon.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 26/05/2014 19:09

You need to have a conversation with him then, tell him how you feel about organising the weekend when you're both at home because that seems to be the sticking point.

You're both parents and neither one of you should 'be in charge'. Apologies if that's not what you mean but maybe you should be doing more things together as a family rather than one or other of you having to do it alone whilst the other does whatever. When the kids are in bed both of you have time off to do as you please.

alleypalley · 26/05/2014 19:10

YANBU. He's a parent not a babysitter. If he's looking after the kids at tea time, he should do their tea.

But saying that, there are many times my two have had tea (and so then the knock on of bed time) a lot later than I would have liked because dh has been in charge. I've almost had to physically restrain myself from butting in and let him get on with it. I'm lucky that my two are naturally relaxed in their routines that they can handle it without getting too out of sorts, but when dh says oh dd2 is overtired and grumpy, I do just 'mention' well perhaps if she'd had her tea an hour ago she'd be winding down and ready for bed now.

I think you should definitely talk to him though about taking on more of the cooking on a more regular basis.

DennyDifferent · 26/05/2014 19:12

Also don't ask, tell him what you want. If you ask him to take the kids to the park, there is the option for him to say no. If you say, I want the house to myself so I can get chores done, and then let him do whatever he chooses with the kids, even if its something you don't necessarily approve of, you get the same result. He's more likely to do things if he feels trusted and he isn't going to get told off for doing it wrong.

TruJay · 26/05/2014 19:12

I agree with whereyouleftit DH does nothing but bath and bedtime and play time. That isn't fair.
I understand that as a SAHM u can potter around doing odd jobs around the house during the ten seconds each day that the kids aren't requiring 100% attention but its not your job to do it, i still feel cooking/housework should be equally split. I would hate to have to remind over and over again just to get things done.

it probably does come across as nagging yes but if he just used his initiative even a shout to u "what are we doing for the kids tea?" is better than nothing as at least it entered his head instead if old faithful making tea yet again!

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 19:12

Yes it does sound very similar smile! I can totally imagine the same scenario :-)
I do think thoughtless describes it well, none of it is malicious at all, just not thought about.
One of the dcs has ASD and it very likely comes from DH's side (he would agree!) but I don't tend to give him any leeway for this (as the diagnosis came a fair while into our relationship) but maybe I should consider it more...

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hugoagogo · 26/05/2014 19:13

yanbu He should make some meals and give you some proper lie ins at least.

I don't think I could stand it if dh worked from home; well done for not killing him. Smile

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