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Am I interfering and wanting things done 'my way' or is dh being unreasonable?

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Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 18:39

I feel as though dh doesn't do his fair share at home. We often argue over it. He feels hard done by as due to the constant arguments he feels pushed into doing more than he thinks he should. I still feel as though things aren't fair and that I am having to constantly battle to even get to that point (not fair, but fairer than they would be if I didn't battle)
DH works hard, he works from home so is here a lot. I am a SAHM to 3 children, 2 at school and one whirlwind toddler.
I do all the housework, all the washing, all the cooking, all the homework at the weekends, all the organising etc. DH baths the kids and puts them to bed most nights (except youngest who is still bf), plus he makes me a cup of tea every morning when the alarm goes off and loads the dishwasher on the occasional evening.
I've asked many a time for him to cook just one meal a week, at the weekend as I don't like cooking and am fed up of it 7 days a week. It's happened once this year I think. If I want a lie in, I have to tell him the night before, wake up first with the kids and wake him up repeatedly to remind him to get up etc. if he wants a lie in, he just doesn't get up and then saunters downstairs a couple of hours after I'm up saying 'thanks for the lie in'
Anyway, today he said he wanted a couple of hours to do some eBay stuff. I said fine, he could have the morning to do that, I would sort the kids etc as long as after lunch (we went out for lunch) he would look after the kids so I could sort out the back log of washing. He said fine. He had his eBay time, we went out for lunch. As we were finishing lunch he said 'what shall we do this afternoon?' I said he'd promised to watch the kids while I did stuff, he said 'oh yes I'd forgotten, well you could do that later, shall we go to the park first?' I said no as it was gone 3pm and we didn't have enough time to fit both in. He was sarky about that but agreed. We got home about 4, I've been sorting the house and he's been watching the kids. They eat tea at 5/5.30 usually, to get to bed for 7.30. I didn't want to nag so left it till I was sure he'd forgotten their tea befor I mentioned it at 5.45... Just said its getting quite late for tea for the kids? He was surprised that I wasn't making tea. I reminded him that he agreed to watch the kids for a couple of hours and he said that he was watching them, but didn't realise that included making tea? I asked him if he could please make something quickly as it was getting late. (Imagining beans on toast, something quick).
Go back to kitchen at 6.15 and he is chopping carrots to begin making a cooked meal. I said something about it being a bit late to start a big meal, which won't be ready for at least half an hour and mentioned that I would have thought beans on toast would be better and he's got the massive arse with me that I expect him to do things 'exactly as I would' and won't let him just get on with things his way.
I feel like I can't win. That's exactly why I waited till later to remind him about dinner as I wanted to give him a chance to do it his way, but he didn't do it at all! If I don't say anything, nothing gets done, if I do say something then I'm nagging and wanting everything done 'my way'
Surely wanting our children fed at a reasonable time is not ott?
Sorry this is so long. DH is really lovely in other ways, he's brilliant with the kids in terms of playing with them and doing fun things together. He loves family time and days out together, he works very hard and I could spend every last penny of what he earns on myself and he wouldn't say a word. He's great with being flexible during the week with switching his working hours to allow the kids to do various activities when I can't be in two places at once.
I feel very confused. I veer between thinking that I am too harsh on him and should chill out so we stop the constant bickering and thinking that he takes the piss and I am not harsh enough!

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satsumagirl · 26/05/2014 19:14

Yes your DH needs to pull his finger out. It's the same here- I am so fed up with thinking for my DH about the kids and the housework. In my darkest moments I really do think its a form of learned helplessness ie they defer to us so they end up doing less. My time is also never as protected or important as DH's either. For example, I was ill on Saturday and squeezed in a short rest. DH has had same bug and has spent most of day in bed. Lucky him.

sykadelic · 26/05/2014 19:15

I too hate cooking every day but my husband isn't a good cook. For that reason we have pizzas, or mac & cheese, or we get chinese...

He was watching the kids, you didn't mention that "watching the kids" would mean dinner, and I'm sorry but I have no idea why you think it WOULD mean also cooking dinner when you wanted time to do stuff which included "sorting the house"... I would assume that you were also getting dinner on and wanted time alone to do it.

He doesn't think like you and he's not a mind reader. He probably thought doing beans on toast would mean you'd tell him off for not doing something more nutritious. He tried to cook a real dinner and then you had a go about it being wrong. You told him 15 mins after dinner should have been served... you said because you didn't want to nag but it comes off as you waiting so you could smugly point out he'd forgotten. You certainly weren't considering the kids interests by waiting so they'd end up eating dinner late.

Why don't you order in? or go out? Or just remind him? If he's not doing it every day it' easy to forget timing (i.e. what time he should get started). You could have said "so what are you making for dinner? Should I get something out for it?" that would have reminded him an not ended with the second argument.

Sorry but I'm with him on this instance. Be more direct.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 26/05/2014 19:16

YANBU - not at all.

Do the posters saying YABU really think this guy should get to swan about doing what the fuck he likes just because he works and the OP doesn't? Unbelievable. Hmm

OP I agree the situation with the kids tea wasn't ideal, but I can see why you did it.

FWIW we have a similar set up, and DH probably does 70%+ of the cooking and food prep at the weekend, including the Sunday roast.

youmakemydreams · 26/05/2014 19:17

I also can't believe some people think YABU. I'm sorry but it is bloody frustrating to have to hand hold another adult every step of the way. You are accused of micromanaging your dh but he seems to need it.

My ex was/is a lovely guy but it felt and feels when he is here that I have to think for him. If you are busy doing something else how the hell are you supposed to be cooking tea? You shouldn't have to tell him tea needs to be made. He should be a grown up ad instead of sitting there waiting for a meal to appear in front of him once he realised it was coming to tea time to give you a shout and ask if you had anything planned and if not shall he pop something on?

OP always cooks tea because he doesn't not because she enjoys cooking. Why the hell shouldn't he spontaneously decide to cook dinner he like everyone else needs to eat.

The lie in thing is rubbish too. There comes a point where you might as well just get up because you are wide awake anyway because you have spent so much time fending off the dc while your dh takes hours to wake up then grumps at you saying that they can't be expected to just jump out of bed the second their eyes are open.

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 19:17

I just laughed out loud at that Hugo! It took us a while to get used to him working from home I have to say!!! Its nice in some ways (for him he gets to go to kids sports days and parents evenings etc, for me I have an emergency back up ie if ine is sick and asleep I can leave them home for school run, and we all get to eat tea together) but these only just outweigh the annoying bits!!!!!!!

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motherinferior · 26/05/2014 19:18

You need lie-ins and he needs to cook more. He can always batch cook, as a poster above suggests.

emms1981 · 26/05/2014 19:19

You're NBU my husband works full time, I don't expect him to do a lot of house work but he still cooks when he's home or will watch the kids if asked. He can be a lot like your husband and say I nag and he can't win and with him any time will do.
I used to work part time and he would watch the kids but I would come home at 7pm and the house would be a tip, the kids wouldn't be fed so I would have to start again after a full day at work.
like you I never get a lie in, if hes home in the mornings I have to wake him up to help get the kids ready for school but I end up doing the breakfasts, packed lunch, making sure they put school uniform on, he comes down just to take them to school. I think hes bathed them about 5 times in total

slithytove · 26/05/2014 19:23

I just asked DH
"If you were watching the kids 3-7pm, would I need to tell you to make their dinner and put them to bed"

DH "no, course not, why Confused"

So yanbu. Having to spell every tiny little thing out is frustrating.
Equally, you should each get a lie in, one on sat and one on sun. He should also cook at least one meal a week.

It is my belief that for family life to work, each parent needs to know they have some time alone. Which means that one evening a week, they have to do nothing other than look after themselves. So one night, he doesn't have to do anything once he is home other than please himself. And in return, one night once he is home, you get to stop everything, homework bath time, dinner etc and do just as you like.

We implemented these two things (lie in and one night a week each) and are sooooooo much happier as a result.

Could you try it?

Itsfab · 26/05/2014 19:24

What's all this doing more than he should?

In my house DH and I just get on and do what needs doing. There is no you should have done this crap.

Why didn't he take the kids to the park and you go home and tackle the huge job that is putting clothes in the washer and turning it on? And waiting to see if he remembered to feed the kids was shit. They go hungry so you can make a point.

WolfAndMud · 26/05/2014 19:26

"Do the posters saying YABU really think this guy should get to swan about doing what the fuck he likes just because he works and the OP doesn't? Unbelievable."

Bastard, cooking a proper dinner. What a cunt!

StandsOnGoldenSands · 26/05/2014 19:27

Do you both have equal amounts of leisure time ? That is your starting point.

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 19:30

Ha ha. Isnt it funny how the same thing can be seen in such different ways.
I'm kind of glad in a way that opinion is so divided, as it kind of means that neither of us is a total wanker, we just sit different sides of the fence on how we do things

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 26/05/2014 19:30

Wolf it is just an example of him not thinking beyond the end of his nose, which is pretty much what the OP is upset about. Starting cooking at 6.15, so meal at 7pm for children who are used to having their tea at 5.30 is a recipe for disaster.
It is called doing something badly so that you don't get asked again, and yes it is utterly cuntish.

Dysfunctional · 26/05/2014 19:32

YANBU- are you me? Does your DH regularly disappear upstairs for a nap?

I have to say I acknowledge I'm a bit of a control freak where the children's routine is concerned but that's because I usually have to deal with the inevitable melt-down, fall out etc that occur when they are hungry and tired.

I do micro-manage but if I didn't things would never get done- but by micromanaging I never give DH a chance to try and get things done- vicious circle.

Anxiety often goes hand in hand with control issues.

WolfAndMud · 26/05/2014 19:34

I'm not so sure Alibaba, surely MN to an extent is like FB, you present the best of yourself.

"left it till I was sure he'd forgotten their tea befor I mentioned it at 5.45... Just said its getting quite late for tea for the kids?"

I may be reading too much into the sentence above, but if DP waited until he was sure I'd forgotten something I'd be a bit miffed. Why would he need to be sure I'd forgotten or fucked up. Yeah it's a dumb thing to do, but if you suspect something's not going to plan, say it when it can be put right or shut up when the person tries to put it right themselves.

Phineyj · 26/05/2014 19:36

YANBU, but either your DH is really a bit dim, or you did all this stuff yourself when DC were little so he never acquired the skills. Having to beg for time at weekends to do the laundry is ridiculous, as is not getting a lie in ever. Is he not competent to do the laundry either? What would he do if he were single? I think at weekends you need a rota, which should include some time for each of you to do something by yourselves - and I don't mean laundry!

Glitterfeet · 26/05/2014 19:38

YaNbu

I used to be a SAHM and that doesn't mean that you have to do all the thinking, planning and doing all weekend, every weekend. You don't have to arrange a couple of hours of not being in charge of the kids to do laundry.

Not doing things your way, isn't what annoyed you. It was the not thinking or taking responsibility. If you'd been nit picking about mixing pasta into sauce over dollaping it on top I'd think differently.

He's decided feeding the children isn't his responsibility. Then when it has to be pointed out to him that he probably should feed them doesn't give a few seconds to look at a clock and do some basic maths and reasoning.

I love it when someone doesn't take responsibily, will only do something when asked & only then to specific instructions. The first line of defence is to put the other person down by calling them a nag.

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 19:39

Slithy.... I very much agree with the one evening per week thing.. I've tried to Implement that a few times but was really hard to get it to stick.. Dh has 2 or 3 nights out every week. He could easily fill 5 a week with all he wants to do but limits it to save arguments with me (and I think feels a little hard done by for this). The other nights are a mix of us doing something together like watching a film or of him working through the evening (usually to make up for work missed when he's been doing an activity that week... He sometimes does non work stuff during the day too)
He kind of thinks that my night off to myself is the night he is working, but I don't feel like I get to unwind as he's shut in his office and I'm fielding children asking questions and putting then back to bed. I never know when I will be disyurbed and therefore can't relax. I'd like him to take one evening a week and be on 'duty' so I can ignore and relax myself but he thinks that's a waste when I'm only at home anyway so he might as well be out or working instead. He'd watch the kids no problem if I wanted to go out out but doesn't see the point in watching them so I can relax or study or do my hobby at home ...

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DennyDifferent · 26/05/2014 19:40

Alibaba, I think that the consequences of that recipe for disaster should have been his to face. It shouldn't be a case of not getting asked again, as he shouldn't be asked to do these things in the first place. That suggests that its the OPs responsibility and she is delegating jobs. He was supposed to be looking after the kids during tea time and bed time. I would have stayed out of his way until the kids were in bed, maybe popped to the shops or something and let him see just why we don't feed mogwi after midnight the kids that late.

Hellokittycat · 26/05/2014 19:43

Wolf I didn't word that particularly well.. What I meant was that I was conscious that I should try and stand back and let him do things his way. Until 5.45 I wasn't sure if he was going to do tea but was just a bit later than I would have done, in which case I wouldn't have said anything and let it go, but by 5.45 I was more thinking that he had forgotten and therefore felt I had to say something to remind him if that makes more sense!

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DennyDifferent · 26/05/2014 19:43

Hellokittycat if the kids disturb you on your night off, send them to daddy.

sunbathe · 26/05/2014 19:45

YANBU. I cook all week, dh cooks at weekends.

Re the lie in. I did all the night wakings and had Saturday morning as my lie in. Dh had Sunday.

Make it a regular thing. It's only fair.

MysweetAudrina · 26/05/2014 19:46

Why would you need someone to look after the kids while you sorted the washing. Thats the kind of thing I would do while on my own with the kids. Surely preparing food would need more attention than putting away clothes.

Dysfunctional · 26/05/2014 19:46

Why should he have 2-3 nights out a week and you have none? Totally unfair. Obviously if you don't want to go out and DC are in bed not so bad but if you do want to have a night out or a night on which you don't have to listen out for wake-ups you should.

clairewitchproject · 26/05/2014 19:49

you may NBU but it does sound like you are keeping score. Keeping score is a very quick way to build resentment in a partnership. He gets Ebay time, so I get sorting time, and I'll just chuck in a little test and see if he remembers tea but not mention it until he's in the wrong....and if the kids miss out on the park that doesn't matter too much because the score keeping has to stay even....a relax night for him, a relax night for me. I find my DP and I have different needs. I need more sleep, so I take more naps, for instance. He doesn't, so he doesn't. He hates cooking, and is pretty rubbish, so I do almost all the cooking. He makes his own toast :)