to think it proves lots of people want change

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That ukip are making such huge gains in the elections.
If mnetters could temper their hysteria of screaming racism, I think it is a clear indication that the fundamental principals of the party of no toEurope and no to continued mass immigration are very important to a lot of people

i voted yesterday. i am a citizen of the uk, and resident here, so i am allowed to do that.

i am not a citizen by birth, or by ancestry. this is relevant, bear with me.

about half of the party names on the ballot were far right, england for the english types names. bnp were one of them. there are signs up in my hometown for ukip which make it clear that immigrants are a problem.

i read all those name on the ballot list, and each one felt like a suckerpunch.

you feel aggrieved, english-by-birth people? i feel threatened, and afraid.

i don't know what happens next.

i don't know why i said hometown, sorry- i meant the town in which i live.

Ukip, are doing exactly what they was elected to do, (again I don't want to but think I need to acknowledge I am not au kip supporter)

They was voted in as mep's to highlight politics within the eu, they vote no on everything because of their anti eu stance and they are obviously going to take the allowance that is awarded to all mep to highlight what is being paid.

Was any notice paid to any of the lib dem representatives who voted against some pro feminist policies, or did they showcasing the amount of money that is available for claims?

wow what an aggressive post another where have I name called - please do direct me to that post

again I will say ...using existing policy as evidence that such a policy exists is stating fact - it is in no way endorsing such a policy or saying 'this policy is ace' hth

clearly reading peoples post effectively is not your strong point

The only party I am currently interested in is my birthday party

I haven't disregarded the vote either btw - again do show me were I have - I merely pointed out that UKIP gained 17% and Labour 31% :)

Scottish people, PLEASE don't leave us with these racists.

or take us with you!

Hang on a sec, I'm not sure why Gordys is being demonised here. People wanted to know what the comparable rules were in different European countries to access benefits as a new EU arrival. Gordys did their homework for them provided quite a bit of data.

Then people complained that she was including recent UK policy changes, because apparently recent policy changes don't count. Otherwise they would be evidence of the government listening to people, which obviously doesn't fit the narrative.

Then she took flak for including policies she didn't specifically agree with when they were introduced, as if her opposing them stopped them being policies.

And now people are calling her names (while complaining that she's been name calling).

Is that a fair summary? I've in bed with a monster stomach bug, so I may have missed some nuances.

What I'm not clear on is how she feels about the NHS. She just refuses to talk about it.

Excuse me but can someone explain why you consider someone thik who votes UKIP in some of the following circumstances.
You are an unskilled worker or a tradesman and you have seen the price of your labour decimated by someone who is prepared to come to the Uk and live 15 to a 3 bed house for 12 months to get some money together and then bugger off back to Eastern Europe (taking the money with them)and then the next batch arrive and do the same thing.How can a Brit with a family to support (at Uk costs) compete with that.
Or how about you are on the housing list and immigrants with a higher points score (or however it is worked out) pushes you down the housing list.And it does happen I remember seeing a BBC documentary about Somalians moving here with huge families .
Uk govt spending millions on foreign aid when British children are being fed from food banks and living in unhealthy housing?

Ok some typos in there before some clever dick points it out!!

One of the reasons why UKIP are becoming popular is because their voters are being sneered at.

Judging by the coverage on the TV today it looks like they are finally being taken seriously.

Justanother, I'd have more time for UKIP MEPs if they actually showed up to cast their protest votes. But they don't, their voting record is abysmal and Farage's is the worst if them (I assume to make time for his numerous Have I Got News For You and Question Time appearances, it must be tough being such a media outsider). Their participation on committees is even more woeful (and then Farage had the gall to claim he had been instrumental in the reform of the Common Fisheries Policy, which is curious considering he attended one meeting out of 41 of the Fisheries Committee on the issue).

But they don't show up. Their attendance and voting records are dire. Farage admits he claims the maximum allowances he can, has no intention of foregoing the standing allowance, his two EU pensions

If I didn't show up to work, I wouldn't expect to get paid. When normal workers withdraw their labour as a signal of protest, they don't get paid. Why are UKIP MEPs different? Are they too privileged to be expected to pay the price for upholding their principles?

Redbridge
Cambridge
Crawley
Hammersmith & Fulham
Hastings
Harrow
Merton
Amber Valley

On track for at least a minority govt in 2015. It's not 1945, but it's better than a punch in the face, or something like that. U Who?

Chibi
I am not a citizen by ancestory, I have received casual and direct racism, to me believing ukip will actively escalate this is pointing the finger without actually discussing the points raised ( ironic as they seem)

Closing down debate by implying or shouting racism/xenophobia without discussing unpalatable topics is playing into their hands

Sorry - trailed off above, should have read 'has no intention of foregoing the standing allowance, his two EU pensions, of the MEP salary that is much more generous than a Westminster MP gets'.

In fact, MEPs' salaries are around the level IPSA thinks MPs should be paid, except there was an unholy stink at that suggestion. Not a bad wage for not showing up to work.

'... they have merely replaced the Libdems as the protest vote, and they never got anywhere come the General Elections whatever they did'

just remind me which 2 parties have formed the UK government for the last 5 years?

i am not calling any posters xenophobic, or racist.

talk about what you want, who is stopping you?

my only point is, the climate here now is worrying to me. for the first time in the decade or so I've lived here, i feel unwelcome, and threatened. it's no longer one or two people, but a significant tranche of people who want me, and people like me, gone

seeing how i am here, and settled, how should i feel about it? overjoyed? packing my bags with a happy heart?

Wow, just wow. I was on another election thread but have now read through this one.

Farage is just as much a public school toff as Cameron, Clegg et al. Don't think otherwise. He similarly educated his children in private schools iirc.

He was a stockbroker from an already wealthy family. He gets paid to be an MEP and as Jassy points out above does nothing to earn it. All those protest votes will amount to nothing as he and his ilk are hardly ever there to actually scrutinise and/or vote on legislation.

He is not authentic - he is totally a mouth for hire. Did you see his video extolling a particular brand of e-cigarettes after the company had made a contribution to his coffers?

Man of the people my arse - have you seen how he cringes when surrounded by "ordinary people"?

Just the same as all the other politicians - no revolution, not different.

And fyi, most people in London still are just ordinary people trying to keep a roof over their heads, make a living and raise their families - not multimillionaires living in mansions using cheap foreign labour for "staff".
Ffs.

Jassey,

I think you need to look into the agenda of ukip as an anti-eu party.

The whole point is they are getting this money without showing up is what they are trying to highlight, plus they are still allowed to have a vote and still vote no on anything proves their anti eu policy.

They are enacting the policies that got them elected, playing by the rules but showing the hypocrisy, what is wrong with that

Chibi, I feel the same. Britain is a less friendly and safe place to me today.

lurker sorry but I believe you are wrong - Farage and his ilk will take money for nothing and piss themselves laughing at the way they are getting away with it. Jack to do with actual politics.

I am genuinely afraid for my little girls future. She will be demonised by people like sunshine city above. She is British, but will always speak two languages and have a foreign parent. Ironically, one who came here and was massively impressed by the tolerance of the general population. Where will it end? Hopefully at the pointing and xenophobic comment stage, which occurred yesterday :(

Thank you Jassy

Farage could 'highlight the hypocrisy' and not take the fucking money.

And to the OP for the "hysteria of screaming racism" comment: not in my world.

I find it astonishing that UKIP doesn't even have control of a single local council yet the bbc saw fit to give them 20 mins of big licks. It's like they want us to vote for them.

Totally weird.