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To feel uncomfortable - additional parking permit

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ParkingPermitWoes · 13/05/2014 14:07

Name changed for this and it could out me!

DBIL is in the process of buying a campervan and has said that we can use it whenever we want to. Lovely, except that I dont think well use it a huge amount as we're not great campers (and we've just had a new baby) but great to have the offer there of course.

DBIL came over last night and talk turns to where it will be kept. It transpires that he is looking at keeping it in storage for around four months of the year in storage and then outside our house for the rest of the year (including during summer time).

There are practical reasons why he can't keep it outside his place and he lives about 30 minutes from us.

It's been stressed that he would pay for all the running costs and that we wouldnt have to contribute at all, just petrol etc when we used it. We are in the middle of town so have parking restrictions and so it would need a permit. It was casually thrown in that this would mean that it needed to be registered in our names. If we do that then we have to be the registered owners and then the insurance, MOT, tax etc will all be in our names. I dont really want to do that to be honest if he has an accident in it then while we wont lose our no-claims bonus if I'm right then I think our premiums could be affected?

Also, I just dont want to be responsible for another vehicle and it will be our fault if its not taxed or insured etc. I suspect DBIL is just as disorganised as my DP when it comes to paperwork so yet another thing for me to be responsible for and worry about.

I feel really uncomfortable with it. But I dont know though whether Im being unfair and should just go ahead with it or say no. If we say no then for other reasons I don't want to go into it will be difficult for him to get it and keep it.

Any thoughts?

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 13/05/2014 14:42

Well maybe. Why would you though?

angelos02 · 13/05/2014 14:42

I would be mighty pissed off if someone parked a ruddy great campervan outside my house.

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ParkingPermitWoes · 13/05/2014 14:44

To help someone out I guess? But I agree with you all on here - not great! Problem is my DP's family help each other out a great deal and this is just expected I think.

There is another VW van on our road and no-one seems to mind about that so I don't think it will piss off the neighbours too much. I just really don't like the idea of it.

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MintyChops · 13/05/2014 14:46

Even if you like him this is a recipe for causing problems. Apart from the potential issues with tax, insurance, speeding tickets etc you will definitely piss off your neighbours. Can you fudge it by saying " So sorry but we won't be able to get another parking permit as new restrictions have come in due to over crowding"?

Brucietheshark · 13/05/2014 14:47

Er no. Unless he is buying it outright with cash. Then I'd sell it and keep the money

lanbro · 13/05/2014 14:53

A V5 logbook does not prove ownership. Yes, tax and fines etc would come to you but you wouldn't be liable. Insurance does not have to be in the name that's on the V5, so long as your bil stated where it was kept he could insure it.

Saying that, if you don't want to do it just say no.

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ParkingPermitWoes · 13/05/2014 14:54

No, he's not buying in on finance and it's being bought outright.

Thanks all, I'll be having chats with DP this evening. I do not think this is going to go down too well. Can just hear the responses now from MIL...I'm being unfair, unreasonable, selfish etc...

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Pobblewhohasnotoes · 13/05/2014 15:00

Well tell your mil to look after it then.

flowery · 13/05/2014 15:06

"Can just hear the responses now from MIL...I'm being unfair, unreasonable, selfish etc..."

Why would it be you being unreasonable and selfish? Confused It's your DP's family, let him deal with it. Unless he's going to say something like "Oh I'd do it like a shot but ParkingPermitWoes won't let me....."

BerniesBurneze · 13/05/2014 15:12

No no no no no way in hell.

foolishpeach · 13/05/2014 15:15

Definitely say NO.

Tell your MIL to piss off if she gives you a hard time about it. Nothing to do with her anyway.

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ParkingPermitWoes · 13/05/2014 15:18

I suspect DP doesn't really care about the practicalities of it as he probably doesn't think there'll be anything to worry about or think about.

MIL can't look after it as she lives 3 hours away.

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mummymeister · 13/05/2014 15:29

ok OP so say that you do it and it goes in your DP's name. then there is an accident. no claims bonus gone. or speeding fine, this would come to the named driver and then be for him to prove, yes prove, that it wasn't him driving. it is fronting. insurance companies don't like it. your DP will have to lie and say on the forms that it is his main vehicle when you all know that it isn't. is he happy to lie to an insurance company?

LemonPipLimePeel · 13/05/2014 15:33

So if it gets vandalised while sitting unmoved for months, you have to do the paper work for claims? Or if someone bangs into it getting in or out of the spaces around it?
It sounds like your BIL was impulsive about getting it, without thinking about the practicalities!

Dropdeadfred2 · 13/05/2014 15:37

Suggest he hires a garage near him? It would probably only cost him £50 a month.

MinesAPintOfTea · 13/05/2014 15:40

Loads of sites offer storage year round. He'll just have to find somewhere. He should have thought of this beforehand.

CatThiefKeith · 13/05/2014 15:43

Storage near here for camper vans/ caravans costs just over £500 per year.

If you are in the SE I could happily pm you the details?

IAmNotAMindReader · 13/05/2014 15:46

If you can't face the brow beating from MIL ring the council yourself and explain the situation and how you don't really want it there it isn't yours and it would be an eyesore, they may be able to produce a letter stating they won't give out a permit for it, they may do that anyway if space is at such a premium.

flowery · 13/05/2014 15:51

But if you and DP between you agree that your (joint) answer is no, he should then communicate your (joint) position, and it shouldn't be a question of you being unfair.

SATSmadness · 13/05/2014 15:59

Just say that you know that it will piss your neighbours off too much having a residents only parking space (well more like 2 if you consider the size of these things) more or less taken up for 8 months of the year by a campervan.

You're not prepared to have to put up with ill feeling from the neighbours.

End of discussion.

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ParkingPermitWoes · 13/05/2014 16:01

CatThief - that would be great, thanks.

Will let you know what DP says after I've discussed it with him this evening...I suspect he won't take a "joint stance" as I think he thinks it's all ok and hunky dory.

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ParkingPermitWoes · 13/05/2014 16:01

ps - I also think he's quite excited about the prospect of using a campervan!

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SATSmadness · 13/05/2014 16:02

Your BIL doesn't need to know that there is already a VW campervan on the road which the neighbours aren't bothered about. In fact you could tell him that it is actually annoying people already so no way can you introduce another one into the neighbourhood.

Dubjackeen · 13/05/2014 16:03

No, no, no. Let him pay for it to be in storage, and keep everything properly above board re ownership etc. it creates far too many headaches and worries, that nobody needs, by doing what he wants.

Also, I imagine your neighbours wouldn't welcome it, especially if parking is already tight.

CatThiefKeith · 13/05/2014 16:14

Have sent you a pm op.

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