Naked man in communal showers. Totally stark bollock naked.

[tardisgirl68]

Not an AIBU cos really the title says it all. At massive local pool with group of five girls aged 10/11. Luckily they were showering in different area, I was waiting at lockers for them to come back and get changed. Bloke in the shower, nonchalantly steps out of his trunks and made big show of rinsing them out. I did a double take, then the slow burn whilst my brain tried to process what i was seeing . I nabbed a passing lifeguard and said "look!!!!" He was (after getting dressed) frogmarched out and told if he came back in they'd get police involved. Creep. My group of girls saw nothing but that was more luck than anything. shudders

Arse. Posted too soon. Also meant to say:

it could have taken a sinister turn. Well, Bom, ANYTHING could take a sinister turn, couldn't it, if you went round looking for sinister things? Me putting a hand inside my top to hoick up a bra strap could turn sinister if I then started ostentatiously feeling and tweaking my own tit. Or drying between my legs in a communal changing room, I might suddenly decide to start doing a Meg Ryan. But I haven't and I'm not about to. Why must people go looking for the worst to happen?

Incidentally, being naked in public in the UK is illegal 'if it's likely to cause offence', I think, which is, granted, very vague and subjective. But I think someone being naked in, say, a park or a shopping centre is more uncalled for and therefore more weird and therefore more likely to cause offence than someone being naked in a shower.

Public order act could well 'cover' a naked person in a public place.

Of course we teach children that genitals are a normal part of the body and not disgusting.

But children also need teaching social norms and privacy. Part of that especially pre teen is teaching them that in certain situations, we cover up, and that certain parts of our body are just for us.

A person choosing to contravene that sends mixed messages. If a parent raises their child to believe that nudity is the social norm, a child won't understand why (e.g.) they have to keep their clothes on in the playground etc.

Blurred lines like that could easily lead to protection issues and bullying.

the exhibitionism, and the notion being pedalled that somehow those who don't share this particular and really quite minority psychological tendency are somehow wrong, bad or repressed.

• what exhibitionism? Why are people so confident about ascribing a motive to a complete stranger they only know about from the internet? What are the grounds for being so sure about this?

• what notion about others being repressed? How does anyone know this man (or any other person who is comfortable about showering naked) thinks others repressed? Maybe he/they are just acting according to their own preference, not trying to judge/convert others?

titchy In my back garden, and on many beaches around the country. Discretely of course in quieter corners so as not to frighten any sensitive natives.
But then I grew up knowing that there was nothing shameful or dirty about my body or anyone else's.
That's why when a DOM flashed at me on the way home from school I naturally just pointed and laughed at him. I'd want my daughters to be equally comfortable.

Would any of you be happy that your 8 yo dd was showering next to a naked man?

Presumably Sally you knew that a man getting his todger out was wrong when you were flashed? Wouldn't you want your daughter to be aware that it was wrong too?

Presumably Sally you knew that a man getting his todger out was wrong when you were flashed? Wouldn't you want your daughter to be aware that it was wrong too?

The CPS doesn't prosecute in Scotland. I'm pretty sure its covered by common law on public indecency, which varies according to the circumstances, but someone else can check!

I'm also wondering if this incident took place at the weekend, which is particularly busy with families with children. To be honest, most serious swimmers avoid public pools at this time because of it being so busy. With families with children.

Sallyingforth I honestly find you a bit irresponsible. I'm not interested (contrary to what you may think) in your constant descriptions of your public nudity, but in your pedalling the notion that flashers are harmless. I laughed at a flasher on my way home from a club and he tried to drag me into an alleyway with him. When the police interviewed me to try and get an ID of him, they were very clear in pointing out that sex criminals often started out as flashers and then built up, and this was why they were so concerned.

Sally, how cool of you to be able to point and laugh at a flasher when you were a mere schoolgirl

Most females, of school age or not but especially when younger, would be very frightened by a flasher. When asked about all the sexual assaults they have had to endure in their lives, getting flashed at is regularly up there. I am glad it is just a big old giggle for you, though.

Why are there 17 pages of posts on this thread?

LancashireMan Why are there 17 pages of posts on this thread?

Because some posters are getting a thrill out of their elicit streak, and other posters are disagreeing with it.

*illicit

Sorry I went swimming the other week and I always take my cozzie off, otherwise all the soap from the shampoo gathers in the bottom of the cozzie, how are you supposed to get that off your bits without being naked? is it illegal to be naked in showers that are closed off from the pool? I noticed I was the only one that was naked, but how are you supposed to shower properly with a cozzie/swim trunks on? genuine question
I'm in England so we don't have these types of communal showers. At least in the places I've been in.

I was 12 at the time, in broad daylight on a main road, and it just seemed funny that the guy was making a fuss about something I was so used to seeing and ignoring.
If it had been somewhere isolated or dark that would have been different - but then I wouldn't have been there alone.

I find that so bizarre MrsJoe.

I coukd be arrested under the public order act for saying a swear word to someone, but a man who ambles up to my daughter naked wouldn't be so long as he's on his way to work?

In that case, the laws an ass....

sally I think that a flasher even in broad daylight would not amuse me.
Anger me, yes, but not amuse me....

That's interesting MrsJoe. Then I wonder, on what grounds was the Naked Rambler arrested?

I also wonder what some other men would do seeing a man showering naked next to an 8 year old girl titchy.

I think it could end badly.....

missing I explained earlier that the Naked Rambler was given as ASBO preventing him from being naked in public. He was arrested for breach of the ASBO, breach of the peace and contempt of court.

This article explains it quite well.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8235959.stm

I wonder what they'd think if it was their dp that was insisting on showering naked next to young kids.

So it's not quite "anything goes."

No of course not - if you intend to cause alarm or distress to others by displaying your genitalia, then you are committing a criminal offence.

Hence why exposure (or "flashing") is an offence.

It is not anything goes, but nor is it that we all have an absolute right not to be subjected to other people's naked bodies.

I bet some tourists got a real shock with the man on the plinth.

Phew.
I thought the test would be whether a reasonable person would feel alarm or distress, rather than whether the intention is to cause alarm or distress -I expect its down to mens rea, or whatever?