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To wonder what heroin makes you feel like...?

143 replies

Nancery · 02/05/2014 14:11

As it's so risky (I presume so anyway), and physically addictive, and while some people seem to be able to use it regularly but hold it together while others unravel I wonder what it's a) appeal is and b) what you feel like on it....?
Anyone have first hand experience?

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StampyIsMyBoyfriend · 02/05/2014 21:02

I've had morphine once, after an operation. I had a GA so no idea if it was injection before I woke up or what, but I felt nothing, except pain from the bloody op!

I had been looking forward to a nice floaty feeling, but for me it was a lousy painkiller & I'm not sure if it was the morphine or the GA, but I was as sick as a dog for hours too.

Having seen 'junkies' first hand, injecting heroin into their groins (male & female) because their veins had collapsed, and the effects on the zombies wandering about my nearest city, I've never ever been tempted.

StickEm · 02/05/2014 21:09

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ExcuseTypos · 02/05/2014 21:11

I had morphene after a CS and it was bloody marvellous. The pain went almost instantly, I felt floaty, relaxed and serene.

However when I woke up the next morning I was surrounded by baby cots. (Empty) Apparently I'd been telling everyone on the ward that I was going to fall out of bed as I was lying on a cliffHmm. So the midwives put all the spare cots around me. I don't remember any of it.

PoundingTheStreets · 02/05/2014 21:13

I have never taken heroin or experienced any legal, medically used forms of it. However, I've been told by some addicts that whatever they feel when they start using heroin is very different to what happens once they're addicted. Then heroin is needed just to feel normal.

ConstantCraving · 02/05/2014 21:16

Its been described to me as like being wrapped up in a soft, warm blanket and feeling totally happy, totally safe.

SpottieDottie · 02/05/2014 21:17

I had morphine after major surgery and I couldn't stop crying, apparently it's a common side effect.

HorraceTheOtter · 02/05/2014 21:18

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Crikeyblimey · 02/05/2014 21:26

I smoked it once. Didn't like it much. I was so detached from everything that I had to concentrate on my breathing because I thought perhaps I might forget and stop. I wasn't that bothered but just knew I really ought to breathe so kept concentrating on doing it.

I am a bit of a control freak though, so possibly not the best drug for me.

LoveSardines · 02/05/2014 21:30

Greyhound my dad always said "it takes one to know one".

When I was little I never knew what he meant.

I can spot people who have issues with alcohol because I recognise myself in them. They get a gleam in their eye if a drink is forthcoming, they get a bit too excited about it.... It's a thing, you can see it if you have it yourself.

To OP,

I have had morphine in hospital and it was lovely, all floaty and happy and dazed.

I have known people who used heroin when I was younger.. The ones who smoked it on an irregular basis are OK these days and "normal" if you like, the ones who injected were all pretty fucked up already (homeless / heading that way) and I saw people just head down - so depressing. I was never close to any of those people so I don't know what happened in the longer term but from the way things were looking I doubt any of them ended up in a good state / alive even. I never tried it myself as I like drugs a bit too much and it sounded like a terrible idea and I had enough other substances to be going on with.

I would imagine that if I were to try heroin I would find it absolutely lovely, hence I have never tried it.

Caitlin17 · 02/05/2014 21:40

Another one for morphine. After an operation. Felt wonderful and floaty, enhanced by the gorgeous crisp linen and fluffy pillows in a private hospital. Unfortunately I had a bad come down and threw up violently but it was almost worth it for the nice bit.

FriendofDorothy · 02/05/2014 21:43

It depends on the individual. Heroin can make some people feel lovely and floaty whilst others just spend ages puking.

SagaNorensLeatherTrousers · 02/05/2014 22:05

My best friend died from it aged 21. Her mum died suddenly of cancer when she was 10 and she never quite got over it and I knew she'd always be chasing stuff to make her emotionally numb or happy. She started with pot at aged 14 and would graduate onto harder stuff until she tried heroin around the age of 18.

Her life completely fell apart with the addiction. She, too, described it as being safe and warm and blissful.

She injected with a dirty needle and gave herself a staph infection that settled around her heart. She didn't recover. I like to think she's back with her mum which is where she always wanted to be anyway. Sad

SunshineBossaNova · 02/05/2014 22:05

I've had diamorphine after operations and it was hideous. I was completely out of it and puked my guts up.

My best friend smoked H recreationally, she loved it. Later she became addicted and was injecting, and ended up with an abscess in her groin. She'd taken heroin, crack and valium on the day she died at 32.

MadAsFish · 02/05/2014 22:18

So who are these people who use regularly and keep it all together? All the heroin users I know are seriously fucked up people.

You will never know. They will never tell you because then you'll think they're fucked up. And if they're simply recreational users, they won't have the addictive aspect, like the alcoholics being described upthread.

The thing is, it's an individual response. Not everyone responds the same way - it makes some people sick, does nothing for others, and blisses others out. For some people it's a bit of occasional fun, for others it becomes an all-consuming obsession.
But for anyone looking for a break from emotional pain, it's very, very dangerous. Though I suspect it could be used therapeutically under controlled conditions.

BarbaraPalmer · 02/05/2014 22:25

i really loved diamorphine when I was in labour
it wasn't exactly that it took the pain away, I just didn't give a shit about it anymore. I wouldn't describe it as any sort of hit or like, like you get with cocaine or pill, just a feeling of being warm and relaxed and not arsed about the pain. I can definitely see how it would be incredibly psychologically addictive, never mind the additional issue of physiological addition.

neverthebride · 03/05/2014 08:35

I'm not religious at all but this quote from the book of Revelations describes the feeling perfectly:

'And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain as these former things have fallen away'.

RedFocus · 03/05/2014 09:32

Bleugh morphine and diamorphine made me really ill and I hated it so I certainly wouldn't want to try it.

CoteDAzur · 03/05/2014 09:39

I had morphine the 1st night after c-section and it was horrid. I got very heavy and couldn't move nor say anything. A garbage truck must have passed by and its noise looped around my head for what felt like hours, making me wonder if it would ever end. When I woke in the morning, I couldn't tell if I had slept for 5 hours or only 5 minutes and was shattered.

Ketamine doesn't have a similar effect. You feel bouncy, like there are literal springs in your shoes. It's a dissociative - feels like pain happens to someone else, even if your foot is being sawed off in the battlefield, your hand looks like 2-dimensional paper cutout, a model house makes you think you are flying over a real house, etc.

BoffinMum · 03/05/2014 10:03

Lovely, interestingly it's not only the fact that I hate the feeling that stops me taking this stuff, it's the fact that a failed chemist has concocted it in a garage. I get worried enough about fake drugs being in the NHS supply chain, without worrying about unregulated ones being manufactured in a dodgy environment.

The illegality is low on the list of priorities for my compliance. For me it just looks utterly stupid to be involved with such things and I wouldn't even if Waitrose sold it next to the toothpaste.

Mrsjayy · 03/05/2014 10:11

I had to ask Doctors to take me off the morphine pump doodah once because i was seeing spiders it truly was horrible

Koothrapanties · 03/05/2014 10:21

Morphine gives me a really itchy face. I wonder if heroin would too. Weirdly it was lovely having such an itchy face... It was lovely to rub it. Thinking about it... Pretty much everything was just lovely really.

Koothrapanties · 03/05/2014 10:23

My experience of ketamine was like being wrapped in a warm blanket. So so comfortable. However it is the closest I have come to od-ing on any drug.

thebodylovesspring · 03/05/2014 10:26

Saga what a really sad post. Poor friend and poor you.

CoteDAzur · 03/05/2014 10:37

"it was lovely having such an itchy face"

Brilliant sentence. I love MN Grin

Weathergames · 03/05/2014 10:40

As an ex addict (as stated further up thread) and as a former drug and alcohol worker I can categorically say that in no way is it possible to use heroin "recreationally" over a long period of time.

It gets you in the end and people will notice and your life will fall apart.