AIBU to expect employers not to advertise a job having "generous annual leave entitlement" ....

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when in fact, the annual leave entitlement is the minimum required by law. 28 days.

Surely if they were being generous they'd offer more.

Annoys me!

Is that in addition to bank holidays? Because I think they are entitle to say that you have to take bank hols out of annual leave if they want. So 28 days + bank hols would indeed be generous.

If that doesn't include Bank Holidays then that is generous.

It may also mean that there are no restrictions or limits placed on when you can take your annual leave, although admittedly generous isn't necessarily the word I would use to describe that.

I would lose no sleep about it. "Generous" is a vague word - wait until you see the actual figure before you take any notice of that aspect of the job.

It gives you an indication of what they'd be like to work for. I'd take generous to mean 5-6 weeks on top of bank holidays. If the employer feels that 4 weeks plus bank holidays is generous, I know we wouldn't be on the same planet.

jobs that i apply for never include the bank holidays in their total, so yep 28 days is good over 5 weeks + bank holidays.

but that is 5 weeks and 3 days, which is a bit suspicious, a bit like 4 + 13 bank holidays.

what sort of job was it?

Like others - if that's quoted annual leave then it doesn't generally include bank holidays (so you get them on top). So it is quite generous.

I used to have a job that offered 28 days leave (+ bank holidays) so don't see why it is suspicious?

My employers talk about their 'generous' annual leave, which is 28 days (not including bank hols). I don't think it's outstandingly generous myself, esp. as two days have to be used up between Christmas and New Year when the office is closed. But I accept some places are worse, mine just seems normal rather than praiseworthy.

Most Americans only get 12 days annual leave. Since discovering that I've looked on my 29 days A/L as being very generous.

'competitive hourly rate' = minimum wage

28 days plus bank hols is generous. Really, it is.

28 is pretty good, I get 25. My old job (public sector) I got 33 which really was generous!

Isn't 20 days the minimum required by law? Or perhaps it is 20 excluding bank holidays (I should Google this).
DH gets 25 plus bank holidays. I wouldn't think anything less than 30 is particularly generous for the UK, but I'm glad he's getting more than 20 days now.

I thought 20 days was the legal minimum?

28 is generous! I get 25 days.

20 is the minimum required by law, with bank holidays on top. 28 plus bank holidays isn't bad, though it's not quite civil service slacker levels.

28 days plus Bank Hols is generous!

20 days is the minimum by law without bank holidays. 28 is really good. I work for a charity and "only" get 25 days. I'll get 28 once I've been here four years or so.

No it doesn't include bank holidays - it's in the care sector, so the don't recognise bank holidays

28 can't be the legal minimum. DH gets 26.

Ah so its statutory minimum...

It sounds like my old entitlement in hospitality - 20 days leave and 8 days 'bank holidays', which I didn't have to take on bank holidays as I'd sometimes have to work them (although I tended to have control over this as it would depend on what if had on - events department - rather than shifts).

Most Americans only get 12 days annual leave. Since discovering that I've looked on my 29 days A/L as being very generous.

Everywhere I've ever worked, leave time accumulates based on the number of years you've been with the company. You start out with a week, but then it builds. I don't know if it's correct to say most Americans only get 12 days; it's very individual based on the employer.

I've been with my job 10 years, I get 25 days of annual leave, plus 10 days of sick leave, and 4 personal days. That's in addition to time off at MLK Day, President's Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Columbus Day, Veteran's Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

'20 is the minimum required by law, with bank holidays on top'

Not quite. Although it sort of works out that way for full time workers.

Legally the wording is that it is 5.6 weeks paid leave, and bank holidays have no relevance as they have no standing in law. The employer can choose to include bank holidays in that if they wish as when it comes to the legislation, those bank holiday dates are meaningless. It's more a case of these days are compulsory holiday (if you don't have to work them) days. Employers can offer more than 5.6 weeks if they want.

For people who work 5 days a week, this works out at 28 days per year. As it's 5.6 of 'your' working weeks. If you work 2 days a week, you get 2 days (one of your weeks) x 5.6.

Antoinette - if your OH works 5 days a week and only gets 26 days in total, he is not getting the statutory minimum.

www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights.

I wouldn't describe the legal minimum (28 days for full time workers) as 'generous', no. It's normal.

He gets 26 plus bank holidays so I guess that's how they make it work.