to consider UKIP racist?

[fidelineish]

Tell me, please.

She told you two of the grandparents were not UK born, that was the relevant, factual piece of information that determined the effect of the policy.

caruthers, when I first quoted that housing policy, you insisted it was already in place.

I explained that it wasn't.

It is you who appears to be stumbling.

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I said that local authorities employ a policy that LOCAL people with links to an area can be given priority.

Do keep up.

And you were on the thread for ages.

She told you two of the grandparents were not UK born, that was the relevant, factual piece of information that determined the effect of the policy.

If she is a UK citizen then the policy doesn't apply to her then does it?

There's more drama and mumbling on here than jamaica Inn.

Are people supposed to just sit on the thread and do nothing else ?

mumbling?!

Have you got your own little convo going on there fide?

And what you actually said was

If you apply for a council house in many wards right now they will ask you if you have a local connection....what UKIP are suggesting is no different.

which is not the same thing. At all.

No, you said;

AmberLeaf those rules are already in place for social housing in the UK

Nothing new there

Which was incorrect.

local authorities employ a policy that LOCAL people with links to an area can be given priority

That is not what you said in response to my post on that policy.

It is also incorrect. Some authorities have a policy that people must have local connections to be eligible for housing, nothing to do with having priority.

Yes it is Fide.

Your interpretation is different that's all.

Just because you interpret something one way because of your agenda doesn't mean that's what it is in actuality.

If she is a UK citizen then the policy doesn't apply to her then does it?

It would apply to her children as they have grandparents who were not born in the UK.

Come on, do keep up.

It is also incorrect. Some authorities have a policy that people must have local connections to be eligible for housing, nothing to do with having priority.

I disagree with this and visit many council websites to find out yourself.

You can disagree all you like.

Priority is awarded on basis of need not local connection.

Eligibility is often subject to local connection, but priority [which is what this whole housing debate is about] is always awarded on a need basis.

My interpretation doesn't come into it; no-one under current housing law or policy ever has to answer a question about where their grandparents were born. Ever.

I'd be very surprised if you could find an example of parents' birthplace being asked for either (although, just possibly it has a bearing on rural restricted schemes); local connection usually pertains to having been resident, educated or having worked in an area for a number of years.

This isn't true at all.

Local connection can be a priority.

Some opinions on here a like belief systems.

thankfully times will be changing.

Care to elucidate caruthers?

Elucidate on what?

You fill in the gaps to what you decide I meant...that's what you have been doing this entire thread.

You don't have a clue do you?

What the council looks at first
Before considering if you have a local connection the council must first decide whether you are

homeless (first factsheet)

eligible for assistance (second factsheet)

priority need (third factsheet)

intentionally homeless (fourth factsheet).

All those factors come before local connection. Having a local connection alone isn't enough to make you eligible, let alone a priority for social housing.

That is from Shelters website.

If she is a UK citizen then the policy doesn't apply to her then does it?

it applies to my husband and children who are born and bred UK citizens.

its not rewording or a sob story or emotive its a fact as written in their own policy document.

One you are gleefully ignoring in the debating version of "lalala I can't hear you"

Elucidate on 'thankfully times will be changing'

Has anyone else now got this song in their head.

Only with less hippies and more goosestepping?

it applies to my husband and children who are born and bred UK citizens.

No it doesn't read the policy again.

Times will be changing in as much as the UK (Or what's left of it) might/should get independence from Europe and determine our own fate.

Like Scotland is doing now in a democratic way.

With people reading into policies and scaremongering by employing sympathy it's no wonder people are turning more and more of a deaf ear.

This govt have decimated the poor.

The poor have never really stood a chance fighting for resources right down at the bottom of the pile.

It's time we pulled them up by their bootstraps and put them first for a change.

Oh rubbish they blocked the link. Bloody forriners :(