to believe the remaining UK should not make special exceptions for Scottish economic refugees?

[longfingernails]

In the event of Scottish independence, the Scottish economy will be in the toilet. In this event, Britain should not be allowed to become a magnet for Scottish economic migrants.

I wouldn't blame Cameron if the Scots choose independence; the Tory party don't exactly have a strong foothold in those parts. However, I will certainly excoriate him if he gives an inch in any negotiations in the event of independence - especially if he allows large scale unskilled immigration from Scotland into Britain.

An independent Scotland would have almost zero negotiating power and Britain should exploit that to maximise our own advantage.

I have conviction in my beliefs. I believe that small-c conservatism

And large C cuntishness too.

TheRealYellow, please don't worry, this is an entirely fictional (not even making the grade as "hypothetical") situation. Scotland wants to encourage immigration, why on earth would we kick you out? We need more young people!

It is goady yes, yes but is it not a valid question? The OP does say in the event of...goady all the same it is a patronising to just post 'but no one knows whats going to happen' the whole point is a 'what if scenario'

Whats the point of becomming indepedant if you can opt for dual nationality to retain a foot in the door...either/or.

Scotland's only got a population of 5.3 million.

Really there's no need to man the barricades in the event of a yes vote.

I couldn't care less about Better Together.

Though I have sentimental attachment to the Union, and would mourn the breakup of the UK - I have no particularly pressing practical reason for it to continue. Though I despise Cameron in so many ways, Scotland choosing independence would be Labour's failure more than his - Labour actually have a voice in Scotland, and if they don't use it effectively, then they deserve the electoral consequences which will follow from an independence vote.

However, Cameron certainly would have a say in independence negotiations. In those negotiations Scotland will have almost no power - the only cards they have to play are Trident, and defaulting on their share of the debt. Both are pretty weak. We should exploit our power in the negotiations to get the best possible deal for Britain, without any concern about what is best for Scotland. If he screws up those negotiations by giving any meaningful concession to Salmond, the British people would never forgive him.

Oh, I wholeheartedly believe in profanity and insult.

But Peach, rebuilding Hadrian's Wall would provide iScotland with a substantial increase in territory (though many northern English would be happy with that.)

Thanks Oldlady (not that I'd count as a young'un sadly). Will still be voting yes, just glad I'll not be waving at my dcs from the other side of a wall or anything!

No many Nothern English would not be happy with that ffs

Lots of people have dual nationality- my cousin was born and raised in France but has dual nationality and therefore joined the parachute regiment.

It's really very common

It is a valid question, however it cannot be answered because there are so many variables. If iScotland is immediately accepted into the EU there is a vastly different answer than if iScotland is still waiting for its membership to be ratified.

Then we have the passport question- will they be void? The Edinburgh Agreement did say that the outcome would be respected and decisive. That could be interpreted either away.

But I think OP would prefer a good argument, a few shouts of scaremongering, bullying, flights of fantasy, digs about AS' weight and so on.

Ben A'an is a gorgeous wee hill. Nice and craggy at the top so you feel you have climbed a proper mountain. Tends to be a tad busy up there though.

realyellow you're not really worrying about that are you (didn't quite get the tone of your smiley)?

Short answer: no of course that couldn't happen.

Long answer.

And of course rebuilding Hadrian's wall would create a shitload of jobs = good for economy.

If I become an economic refugee from Scotland one place I won't be looking for asylum is England. Their economy already is in the toilet.

I believe Britain should have a strong Border Force to prevent illegal immigration from an independent Scotland. Rebuilding Hadrian's Wall is not necessary though...

Peach, rebuilding Hadrian's Wall would provide iScotland with a substantial increase in territory (though many northern English would be happy with that.)

Excellent point. Scotland reached Durham at a few points in time as well. Lovely place, maybe we can expand?

TheRealYellow, you might not be a young 'un, but your dc are.

(Good to hear you'll be voting yes!)

And yes, andsmile, many northern English would be happy to be part of iScotland, many wouldn't. I didn't say "all".

Ffs.

That's crazy. I am a tax paying, British person working in Scotland (not born here) - is I could vote for independence and then they could kick me out? With or without my children?

Sigh. No you won't be kicked out.

OldLady, you still waiting for your love bomb too?

It sounds like the 'mass immigration' fear is a bit like the Bulgaria/Romania mass immigration fear. The numbers being bandied around exceeding the populations of the home countries.

And of course rebuilding Hadrian's wall would create a shitload of jobs = good for economy.

YY. And we could train up specialists- have a stone and masonry section, a modern-y part for artists (I'm thinking Berlin Wall-esque murals here), perhaps an army section for training purposes, a general bricklaying section...

Basketz, I'm waiting for my personal phonecall, from a callcentre in London. Hasn't happened yet. :(

You have an interesting perspective though op.

How do other countries with borders cope? Hmmmm let 's see. Well Denmark and Sweden have built a bridge joining their countries, it's also possible to take trains and cross borders into most other European countries.

Oh god we are going to get into the EU thing are 't we.

Night night

And of course the new wall would need the mile castles etc manned to keep the nasty Scots out, this could boost the armed forces no end.

There would be no refugee status surely we will all have UK passports