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to be surprised they have been accepted to foster

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NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 13:38

Dps ex and her partner have signed contracts to become foster parents, she has given up her job and from what she has said they are just waiting to be allocated two children.

I know its none of my business hence me speculating here and not in rl, but I am very surprised they have been accepted and wonder if they have been entirely truthful.

Main reasons are : Dsd is 5 years old, she is currently living in her 8th home, attending her 4th school and is living with her 3rd live in step dad. Surely if ex is incapable of providing a stable home life for her own dd, she doesn't have much hope of providing it for foster children either?

She and her partner met less than 2 years ago. Ex was visiting her mum in a priory type clinic when she met her partner on a smoking break. He was there being treated as an inpatient for a cocaine addiction.

She was pregnant within 3 months of meeting him and their relationship has been volatile since with them splitting up several times most recently November last year.

She relies heavily on mil for help with dsd and also now with her new dd. Since dsd was a baby she has spent several nights a week with mil, upto two weeks at a time. She also spends usually two nights a week with us, more at holidays and has overnight stays with her other nan. So basically she doesn't spend a lot of time with her mum. Why she would want to add extra children into the mix when she doesn't look after her own is beyond me.

So are fostering criteria really that lenient, am I being unreasonable to be surprised about this.

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blanchedeveraux · 21/04/2014 16:08

Hi yellowribbons. It was me who mentioned the money. I have known some people in the past who have taken the role of foster carer more from a financial gain standpoint than anything else. I'm well aware that things have moved on considerably from the 70s and 80s but the myth still persists that it's profitable and I just wondered if the people concerned in this OP have bought into that.

You sound like a terrific foster carer, I wish there were more like you and I admire your commitment.

Itsfab · 21/04/2014 16:10

The neighbour has 2 and 4 year old herself, a husband/partner who is away a lot and currently is fostering a child who is under two and I saw her MIL walking baby twins the other day. Her MIL takes the foster children a lot. Her son is in school, her toddler in nursery. I am not sure when she actually looks after the kids herself.

yellowribbons · 21/04/2014 16:11

Mrs DeVere - yes it WOULD be an issue with my local authority. It would be a complete no go, and all that could happen would be for the application to be delayed a few years until the children were older. Though other areas may have slightly different criteria for acceptance, it would really be a complete no go for several of the other reasons the OP has stated.

Also an application could not go to panel until references were received from ex-partners - well either that or a solid reason why references would not be asked for (in cases of domestic violence and so on).

yellowribbons · 21/04/2014 16:14

Sorry if I went on a rant Blanche...it's that myth that makes me foam at the mouth when I see our savings evaporating before our eyes. In fact we are honestly wondering how long we can financially continue for. Thanks for your understanding though and your nice words....though I really only muddle through the same as we all do!

yellowribbons · 21/04/2014 16:18

That's strange, Itsfab. We would not be allowed to let others care for the foster children on a regular basis. And only trusted family who have also been also been approved by the SW could look after the children, and then only in a dire emergency. Perhaps the MIL is also a foster carer, but even so don't think my local authority would like it.

MrsDeVere · 21/04/2014 16:19

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NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 16:20

Yellow you seem to know your stuff and I am hopeful that it will still be refused yet. Poor dsd is already so pushed out, I dread to think of the effect extra children competing for attention would have. She will spend more and more time with us and mil. She already prefers it here. That's not even thinking of the vulnerable children that will be affected by this. Dp just said, well they wont come to any harm with her. He means physically. As if that is all that should be considered. I know he is just scared to rock the boat and is trying to justify it.

I think it probably could be the money that she thinks is involved spurring her on. She has given up her job which she hated to do this. I saw an advert on Facebook saying that a typical income from fostering is 34k a year. I'm not saying that is the truth of the situation but for someone naive I can see why that would look appealing.

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blanchedeveraux · 21/04/2014 16:23

Yup, I think it's the £££ signs that she's seeing. I have known people like this and they either (a) didn't get accepted or (b) pulled out of the process when they realised what hard work and commitment fostering actually is.

Itsfab · 21/04/2014 16:35

Yellow - I have seen the MIL pick up the child first thing and bring her back at 7 in the school holidays.

yellowribbons · 21/04/2014 16:38

Itsfab, I assume your neighbour works for a private agency (or a very generous LA)?

Recently a sibling pair came into care and it was decided they should be placed separately. It was a very difficult and challenging case. We had one child placed with us, but our LA could not find any other carers to take their sibling. Eventually the sibling was placed with private agency carers. We would meet for contact sessions and I was furious/upset to learn that the other carers received FOUR times the amount of money we did - in other words they received in a week what we did in a month!

NeedsAsockamnesty · 21/04/2014 16:42

I would be gobsmacked if she's got even within a whisper of the panel without your DH being spoken to

yellowribbons · 21/04/2014 16:47

Nanco - has your dsd been interviewed herself? Sorry if I have missed you post how old she is, so not sure if she would be too young. All of our children (even our son with learning disabilities/autism) were talked to by the SW on several occasions during the assessment process, and since approval have been asked for their feedback periodically. I really hope it all works out for the best for her, and for you and your partner.

Yes, it's an urban legend foster carers get over £400 a week per child. If only I got half that I would be celebrating.

Good luck!

NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 16:52

She is 5, going on 6, she said she has met the social worker, she didn't say social worker, she referred to him by name. She said he asked lots of questions.

She is quite excited that they are getting two more kids in their house. She knows they will have their own rooms that she's not allowed to go into and that they aren't allowed to go into her room.

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Sparrowlegs248 · 21/04/2014 17:24

Nacho I think you should mention to your DH that his child is also vulnerable. My parents have fostered for over 20 years and some of the children they have cared for have had an appalling time, and as a result some were very difficult indeed, with very inappropriate behaviour, some of them i would not want in the same house as my own small child (if i had one....)

NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 17:28

Notta the thought had occurred to me, I thought I was being incredibly unsympathetic and a horrible person to think it so glad I am not the only one. I just don't think they have really thought through the implications of what they are doing. It wont be all friendly trips to the park and watching dvds with popcorn, it will be hard and have an effect on everyone. Dsd included. I will approach it from that angle with dp.

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NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 18:01

Well dp just got off the phone with the sw who was very apologetic for calling on a bank holiday.

The call opened with Thanks for agreeing to be a reference for x. (he was on speaker phone) So I assume dp has not been totally upfront with me.

He asked about ten questions in total, dp was evasive at best. And was led into his answers by the sw. So do you think x is a good mum?
Errr
Well Dsd is very well looked after don't you agree?
Well yes.

He just said he didn't know to the questions of what are x's strengths and weaknesses and why did he think she had chosen to foster now.

The final question was, do you think a child would come to any abuse in their care. Of course the answer was no but seriously is that what they base their decision on??

I think dp could have been more honest really and I don't know where to go from there.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 21/04/2014 18:20

Oh dear :(

I'd be feeling very uncomfortable with my DP if I was you. Awkward situation to handle. I can see that hes justified it as doing the best for his child - but he's not actually done that has he? Very worrying.

NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 18:25

I honestly don't know what to do now.

Just spike to ex on the phone, to tell her sw had rung and to try and get some more info. She said they have been to panel, all they are waiting for is references from dsd school, her old employer and one for her partner. So looks like a done deal.

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Itsfab · 21/04/2014 18:34

I don't know yellow. I only know what my friend said and what I have seen. I don't like the family so certainly wouldn't be talking to her at any point. I wish she would put some clothes on though .

Itsfab · 21/04/2014 18:36

What a prat you are living with OP.

NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 18:39

Itsfab I couldn't agree more, I am verging on breaking up with him and have several threads about it. One thing holding me back is my relationship with dsd and the fact that she has so little stability already I don't want to be just another temporary fixture in her life.

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Itsfab · 21/04/2014 18:54

You can't forsake a decent relationship in your life for her though. She needs to learn what love is and looks like and seeing you with someone you aren't happy with is not the way to do it.

NachoAddict · 21/04/2014 18:59

There are other reasons too, I am currently saving a fund to tide me over as tax credits take a few weeks to kick in, just so its there when I need it.

She has just had so much upheaval and I wouldn't want to add to it especially with all this going on and I worry we would lose contact with her, she is a lovely child and we do all care for her a lot.

sorry turning this thread onto my relationship problems. Its just one thing after another with 'd'p and I am frustrated with his lack of responsibility today. For his dd and for the vulnerable children who need love, stability and a calm safe haven.

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Hissy · 21/04/2014 19:13

Question, why is dsd living in such a volatile environment? Why is your DP not the resident parent? I don't understand all the concern when he's watched as his kids's shunted from stepdad to stepdad, home to home and school to school.

Levantine · 21/04/2014 19:16

OP I really think you should ring the social worker, especially if your relationship is dead in the water anyway. Let her know your concerns, ask her to treat them with discretion. At least then you know that someone did the right thing in this whole sorry escapade