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AIBU?

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josie cunningham.

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CunningAtBothEnds · 20/04/2014 12:56

I have read an article on the above where she states despite being 18 weeks pregnant and pleased up until now she will be having an abortion to "further her career" namely to qppear on big brother.

whether this is morally ok is one thing but AIBU to ask if an abortion for the reasons she gives is legal? i suppose its similar to someone saying its not the right time, just more brazen?

(I consider myself pro choice btw I just find her apparent callousness a bit tough to take)

OP posts:
NeedsAsockamnesty · 20/04/2014 15:58

I've had several miscarriages and I don't consider it disrespectful so don't speak for me either

OrganicG · 20/04/2014 15:59

Don't be so bloody ridiculous, Sockamnesty. And don't partially quote me out of context.

You do seem to be enjoying yourself on this thread rather, so sorry to have interrupted you.

basgetti · 20/04/2014 16:00

I don't think it's disrespectful either. I had a very recent miscarriage and am in the early and anxious stages of a new pregnancy, yet am insightful enough to understand that other women may have different feelings about their pregnancies, and ways of viewing them.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 16:00

Different she has made choices now she has to take responsibility for them. Yes she will be vilified, that is part and parcel with going to the media with what she has. I wish her no harm, but she is awful! I hope someone who loves and cares for her gives her a good slap with a wet fish, and tells her what she is doing.

itsbetterthanabox · 20/04/2014 16:02

We don't have on demand abortions in this country. Although I think we should. You have to convince 2 doctors that you need an abortion for reasons they deem worthy. So I'm sure she will tell the doctors it is for a different reason.
I think if she wants to have an abortion she should and it's no ones business why. Her body, her choice.

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 16:03

tracey, I formed a very really, very string bond to my first 2 babies. They are beautiful girls who light up my life & as soon as I knew I was carrying them, I was excited & couldn't wait to parent them.

That is far far removed from my experience of my unwanted pregnancy.

My saying that I didn't/couldn't form a bond with my unwanted pregnancy is disrespectful to no one & to ne honest I am sick of that being touted on here as a way to beat down woman who have made a choice that doesn't sit right with some. My friend is unable to get pregnant, she doesn't see my termination as disrespectful at all.

The world doesn't work like that, I can't & won't regret my choice because there are women suffering pregnancy loss/infertility. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but sympathy for them, but it cannot change my course in MY life & their losses should not mean that I have to continue with an unwanted pregnancy.

Do we berate men who successfully impregnate women because there are some men who can't? Would we tell a man that he has no right to be sterilized when some men are unable to get their wives pregnant?

No, we bloody don't!!

tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 16:03

If I was pregnant through no fault of my own, then I still wouldn't refer to a baby as the 'contents of my uterus.' I just don't have it in me.

I appreciate other people have different perceptions though, disregarding whether or not I agree with what they say. They have that choice to voice their opinion, as do I.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 20/04/2014 16:04

Interesting,

It's ridiculous to expect someone to know someone if they have such strong feelings about perfectly legal actions

But not to get all excited about a total stranger having a abortion and think that means something about how pleasant or nice they are or aren't.

tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 16:07

I didn't mean to come across that I was speaking for all women who had miscarriages. That would be impossible.

OrganicG · 20/04/2014 16:08

" It's ridiculous to expect someone to know someone if they have such strong feelings about perfectly legal actions"

Yes it is ridiculous. And it makes no sense at all, sockamnesty. Why would that mean they know them personally?

Back to the drawing board for you I think...

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 16:08

tracypenisbeaker I know unwanted pregnancies do happen, but to have unprotected sex when you don't want a baby is stupid

Oh for fucking hells sake!! I think you need to read up on contraception & it's reliability!

But just in case CONTRACEPTION FAILS.

I was on the mini pill when I had my unwanted pregnancy. I was also using a condom, such was my need to not get pregnant.

The dr SAID that the pill obv didn't work for me (I was religious about taking it) and the condom must have tore.

So there....not too stupid, but if it makes you feel better to think that women only get pregnant when they fail to use contraception, so be it. Can't have you thinking it might happen to anyone, can we!!

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 16:09

I wish her no harm, but she is awful! I hope someone who loves and cares for her Do you honestly think she would be in this position if she truly had someone who loved & cared for her?

2blackcats2 · 20/04/2014 16:09

Mine was a planned pregnancy, a planned baby. I was initially euphoric.

Then things changed.

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 16:12

I just don't have it in me. Yet.

And I hope that you never have to know what it is like, to be able to only refer to what is inside you as a parasite. I didn't think I had it in me, either.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 20/04/2014 16:13

Tracy, if you are against abortion in most circumstances, it's not surprising that you are against this one as well.

tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 16:14

Differentname Come on, I meant unprotected sex as in willingly having sex without contraception, not being the 0.01% whos implant has failed. I know the difference.

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 16:14

opps, shouty said shouldn't be shouty.

I should also point out that I was EBF when I fell pregnant, hence the reason for the mini pill.

Ubik1 · 20/04/2014 16:17

Of course she should be allowed to do it...but it's soooo depressing isn't it.

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 16:17

I meant unprotected sex as in willingly having sex without contraception, not being the 0.01% whos implant has failed ... I know the difference. So say that, then, because that isn't what you said in your post.

Don't leave your post wide open to interpretation & it won't get taken the wrong way!

ddubsgirl77 · 20/04/2014 16:17

she also said shes had 5 miscarriages so is either really shit at using protection or did want a baby as stated she knoes now she can carry a baby past 12 weeks Hmm

LeftyLoony · 20/04/2014 16:19

She has every right to do it if that is what she wants to do.
It's the stroking bump pictures accompanying incredibly insensitive sound bites from a known attention seeker that make her troll-ish in my eyes.

It's this behaviour I hope ends her 'career', not what she chooses to do. Or not.

tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 16:19

It's strange, Doctrine, I am pro-choice in a way, I believe that everyone should have a choice because there is no cookie-cutter perfect circumstance, however I just wish there was no need for them and I wish people would be more responsible. If some people, such as Miss Cunningham (by her own admission) were less ignorant more savvy then the abortion rate would be much lower. There is no way that the majority of abortions are as a result of rape, failed pill etc. Prevention is better than 'cure.'

tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 16:22

What? To me, unprotected sex means, er, not using contraception? Even if it fails, you were still protected to an extent. You can protect yourself with a shield and still get stabbed.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 20/04/2014 16:24

Umm- abortion doesnt exist as a 'cure' to the consequences of rape or failed contraceptives. Abortion exists to end pregnancies for women who wish to end them. Reason for the pregnancy should have no bearing at all on whether the woman is entitled to end it. Her wish to end should be the necessary requirement.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 20/04/2014 16:25

only necessary requirement- is what that should say.