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To not want to be the minority where I live?

734 replies

Charlottehines · 12/04/2014 09:18

It really saddens me that in parks and soft plays with my children, that I am in the minority and my children can't play with other children there as they all play together and obviously can't speak English.
I'm in no way racist, my husband is of mixed origin but I do find it incredibly sad that my children are growing up the minority especially when these other groups make no effort to integrate with other mums or the children.
Am I completely unreasonable to feel sad about this?

OP posts:
LongTimeLurking · 12/04/2014 18:50

I'm surprised nobody has been called a nazi yet.

adoptmama · 12/04/2014 18:51

well, in fairness LongTimeLurking, no-one has advocated gassing anyone else or suggested whites are superior to other races :)

Jinsei · 12/04/2014 18:55

Why's that, longtime? I've seen bigots and racists on this thread, but no nazis. Have I missed some posts? Confused

OP, good for you for accepting that you might be wrong. I hope that you'll find people will engage, if you're willing to make the effort.

IHaveAFifthSense · 12/04/2014 18:57

Leftwing yes, I am a non-white living and grown up in a non-white neighbourhood. I didn't choose to live here, however, it's just the part of the world that I happened to be born in. My mother is white and British. She also lives in this neighbourhood. Would her viewpoint be dismissed?

MOST people prefer the company of people like themselves So is your skin colour the only thing that you base your identity on? Or do you also prefer to be around women only (or men, if you are a man)? Do you prefer to be around people with the same hair colour, shoe size, taste in music, eye colour... as yourself? I know people who are the same colour as me who I would say are nothing like me. I know people of different skin colours who are very similar. If you base who you want to be around on having the same shade of skin, then you must live a very limited life indeed.

LongTimeLurking · 12/04/2014 18:57

jinsei it was a bit of a joke, a reference to "Godwin's Law"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

lemonmuffin · 12/04/2014 19:03

OP, yanbu.

The only unreasonable thing you have done is trying to get a sensible, balanced answer from the MN leftwingerati.

Don't waste your breath honestly; talk to your friends, family and normal people for advice, and then make your decision.

Jinsei · 12/04/2014 19:05

jinsei it was a bit of a joke, a reference to "Godwin's Law"

Oh. I thought jokes were supposed to be funny. Confused

YouTheCat · 12/04/2014 19:06

MOST people prefer the company of people like themselves

True. I do prefer the company of people who aren't bigots and aren't interminably stupid.

Dawndonnaagain · 12/04/2014 19:08

The only unreasonable thing you have done is trying to get a sensible, balanced answer from the MN leftwingerati.
Oh do grow up, tackling racism is not left wing, it's what decent human beings do.

lemonmuffin · 12/04/2014 19:11

Rhinoachicken - easy solution.

Move yourself and your family out of your little surrey town and into a very multi-cultural area, there are loads of them, honestly:

Bradford, Leicester, Blackburn... the list goes on. You would love it there.

IHaveAFifthSense · 12/04/2014 19:11

Dawn apparently decent human beings aren't "normal people" Hmm

lemonmuffin · 12/04/2014 19:14

Most mumsnetters are decent human beings Donna thank you.
Contradicting the left wing view on the subject of racism does not mean that you are not a decent human being.

Mitchy1nge · 12/04/2014 19:15

I think people with left wing leanings can be normal people sometimes Confused and people who are more right wing are not always racist or find of UKIP

obviously is hard to tell here in this deeply conservative heart of suffolk though

YouTheCat · 12/04/2014 19:19

But it isn't a left wing view. Decent people don't judge others on the basis of their race/religion/culture. They could still be true blue but not a bigot.

ouryve · 12/04/2014 19:26

Prioritise social housing for people whose parents and grandparents were born locally.

WTF? What on earth is someone who has had to move to secure employment or to get away from an abusive partner or family member supposed to do, then?

Misspixietrix · 12/04/2014 19:26

It isn't a left wing view. Plenty of people on the right equally think it is bonkers.

lemonmuffin · 12/04/2014 19:26

Well yes, I accept that but the culture and language of the home country has to take precedence surely?

YouTheCat · 12/04/2014 19:33

What culture? I wasn't aware that we had a definitive culture as such. It is mainly made up of bits and pieces borrowed from others and invaders over the years. As is our language.

caruthers · 12/04/2014 19:40

Of course we've got a culture.

Some of the statements on here are ridiculous.

MrsDeVere · 12/04/2014 19:40

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caruthers · 12/04/2014 19:41

If that doesn't work you can always try the 'bunch of guardian reading lefties' tactic

And you can pull the bigot/racist tired old silencing tactic.

ouryve · 12/04/2014 19:43

Which bits of culture? Binge drinking on a weekend? Morris Dancing? Going to the theatre? Opera? Pigeon racing? Hanging round the betting shop of an afternoon? Country shows? Bingo? Going for a curry? Pizza? Chinese? etc etc

British culture is pretty diverse, as it is. Which bits need to take precedence? Should we perhaps examine the cultural authenticity of these activities just in case they're not sufficiently British?

And are muffins really all that British? I don't recall any lemon muffins back in the 70s.

lemonmuffin · 12/04/2014 19:43

Fair enough, our culture is definitely made up of different parts.

My point is that when a woman has been born in this country, and her parents and grandparents, greatgrandparents etc have been born in this country, worked, paid taxes for decades etc....

Why should she be made to feel unwelcome and isolated in her local park!?

dancingnancy · 12/04/2014 19:44

What culture though? And what country are you talking of? Would that be Scottish culture, Hebridean culture, Welsh culture etc? Expect folk living in a village in Yorkshire have quite a different culture to those in London.

dancingnancy · 12/04/2014 19:46

I'm more scared of the beer swigging 'white indigenous' crew in our local park with their aggressive looking dogs TBH.

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